Re: [Tagging] Services provided by a travel agency

2017-06-30 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
The services offered are very similar to a travel agency, but for local services instead of remote ones. Maybe shop=tourism_agency? 2017-06-29 23:13 GMT+01:00 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > I won't disagree with you about shop=tourism as no, I've never heard of a > tourism shop

Re: [Tagging] Power Tower Landuse = ?

2017-06-30 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I'm also using landuse=industrial for towers, substations and all the related gear despite being in a rural area. 2017-06-30 4:37 GMT+01:00 John Willis : > Which landuse is appropriate for power towers? > > http://www.tepco.co.jp/pg/electricity-supply/operation/ >

Re: [Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

2017-08-18 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello Tobias and Cristian 2017-08-18 17:41 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 18.08.2017 10:01, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > If e.g. the lower floors of the apartment building is wider than the > > upper floors, you can tag the outline with both, building=apartments and > >

[Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

2017-08-17 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello. I am thinking in ways to reduce the complexity that introduces the mapping of parts of buildings. For example: * If one part is inscribed within a larger one, can I use simple ways overlapped and leave to the render decide how to draw them or should I create a multipolygon for the larger

Re: [Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

2017-08-19 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Would any one support a proposal for a new tag building:part:levels=* to separate the levels of the building from the part as in this case: way1 {building=residential, building:part=yes, building:levels=4, building:part:levels=3} way2 {building:part=yes, building:levels=4} way2 is inside way1

Re: [Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

2017-08-18 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Sorry, I should have taken time to give some examples. Please read below (I rev. 2017-08-18 1:30 GMT+01:00 Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us>: > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero < > javiers...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> &

Re: [Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

2017-08-18 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2017-08-18 9:01 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org>: > On 18.08.2017 02:30, Clifford Snow wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero < >> javiers...@gmail.com <mailto:javiers...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> * In the wiki

Re: [Tagging] Combined use of addr:place and addr:street

2017-06-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I edited the wiki and tried to improve the text a bit. As English is not my native langauge any additional correction will be appreciated. Best regards. 2017-06-23 10:18 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > 2017-06-23 10:01 GMT+02:00 Javier Sánchez Port

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Place areas

2017-06-19 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2017-06-19 14:15 GMT+01:00 Frederik Ramm : > If you can't point to a sign on the ground, don't map topoynms. > -1. May be in some urban areas it's usual to find signs for toponyms, but more frequently -mainly in rural and wild areas- the toponyms are in the knowledge of the

[Tagging] Combined use of addr:place and addr:street

2017-06-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello Regarding to the use of addr:place together with addr:street, I see a discrepancy between [1] which says: "Should not be used together with addr:street=*" And [2], which says: "Use addr:place additional to addr:street=* for such building, whose numbers belong not to street, but to some

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2017-06-16 19:52 GMT+01:00 Dudley Ibbett : > I’m slightly confused by this discussion. I live in a “hamlet” which is > within a “dispersed settlement”. “Dispersed settlement” describes the > pattern of isolated dwellings, farmyards, hamlets, villages etc. on a > much

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello I would like to say that here, in Spain, we are in the same case. The goverment office for population census give in [1] for each unit (settlement) two values refering to the nucleus population and to the dispersed population. Very frequently, there are units with only dispersed population

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Also note that, at least here in Spain, in a dispersed settlement the 'streets' usually have no name and the postal address of the building is given by the name of the settlement and a housenumber. So this is a valid postal address "Lugar Anocheza, 10" where "Lugar" means place.

Re: [Tagging] address property vs. housenumber as a feature

2018-05-11 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-05-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > Is there a way to indicate a housenumber is a feature, vs. a property? > > In many places, housenumbers refer to buildings or sites, and you might > omit addresses on contained features (because you can hope for

Re: [Tagging] address property vs. housenumber as a feature

2018-05-11 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-05-11 10:53 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > May be it would be good to have a relation to keep in only one place an >> address and link there the affected elements: entrances, buildings, POI's >> and area for this address. This would be necessary only for some cases

Re: [Tagging] address property vs. housenumber as a feature

2018-05-11 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-05-11 14:04 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > sent from a phone > > > On 11. May 2018, at 14:35, Javier Sánchez Portero <javiers...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > similar for the other two streets. With the proposed relation, I w

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hi Jose The facts of be able (or not) to overtake and drive in the middle (as Paul says) are interesting but not necessary relevant for the discussion (IMO). Anyway, for your example of the LR-333 road, most of the time it isn't enough wide for two cars to pass comfortably (see here

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I'm not completely sure of what you want tou express. When you say "a oneway one-wide-lane", I think you refers to a oneway=yes, lanes=1 (correct me if not). I'm referring to a two way road (oneway=no) with enough width for two approaching cars to pass each other without having to slow down or use

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I agree with the solution mentioned by Thorsten. The keys oneway=no + [lanes=2] + division=no have much more sense to me than tagging lanes=1 + oneway=no for this kind of highway (just the same width that a two lanes way but without division). A proper value could serve to indicate also that the

Re: [Tagging] tagging for decaying features

2018-01-04 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-01-04 3:05 GMT+00:00 Kevin Kenny : > On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Kevin Kenny > wrote: > >> By contrast, adding 'historic' and adjusting tagging to current use >> is already a common practice among those who fix repurposed >>

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
El 15 ene. 2018 8:51, "Martin Koppenhoefer" escribió: 2018-01-15 8:54 GMT+01:00 OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96- 288ea1238...@gmx.com>: > generally a "painting". I'd rather subtype the surface value to something > specific like paving_stones=portugese_pavement > +1

Re: [Tagging] How to tag this area

2018-01-26 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I would tag the entire place between buildings as place=square, the flat surfaces as highway=pedestrian+area=yes, the steps as area steps [1] and the bleachers as leisure=bleachers. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Area-steps Javier El 26 ene. 2018 22:36, "OSMDoudou" <

Re: [Tagging] Let's get (quite) rid of units and their multiples in OSM values

2018-07-29 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
To avoid problems when querying, in case of explicitly add units, I would prefer to use a separate tag like maxspeed:units=mph, for example. Javier El sáb., 28 jul. 2018 10:30, Mark Wagner escribió: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 22:33:10 +0200 > François Lacombe wrote: > > > Well okay > > Given

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-07-27 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
What's about access=license? For me it has the same meaning. It has 245 uses and is documented https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Dlicense. Javier 2018-07-27 6:22 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > 27. Lipiec 2018 03:38 od t...@fitchdesign.com: > > > My take is to toss an

Re: [Tagging] Let's get (quite) rid of units and their multiples in OSM values

2018-07-30 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
t; On 29. Jul 2018, at 09:57, Javier Sánchez Portero > wrote: > > > > To avoid problems when querying, in case of explicitly add units, I > would prefer to use a separate tag like maxspeed:units=mph, for example. > > > spreading the information over 2 tags creates anoth

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-08-06 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
El sáb., 4 ago. 2018 a las 7:29, Martin Koppenhoefer (< dieterdre...@gmail.com>) escribió: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 4. Aug 2018, at 01:43, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > As this is not a 'landuse' but a landcover I think moving it to > landcover=clearing would be a good

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-07 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
+1 for access=permit I support it Regards, Javier El mar., 7 ago. 2018 20:38, Paul Allen escribió: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Szem wrote: > >> Thanks. I have three problems: it's a huge amount of texts :( and I do >> not speak english so good :(( and I do not understand truly the

Re: [Tagging] undersea tourist route

2018-08-08 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I think that location=underwater is more exact that surface=water. With the second I expect to walk over the water like Jesus. Javier El mié., 8 ago. 2018 a las 1:13, Warin (<61sundow...@gmail.com>) escribió: > On 08/08/18 09:01, marc marc wrote: > > Le 08. 08. 18 à 00:26, Warin a écrit : > >>

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-14 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello Szem No. That way is just the opposite of the intended meaning. It says that every body need a permit (for example cars) and hikers and riders can access freely. The previous one was ok. Access=no (or private as someones suggest) + transportmode=permit El lun., 13 ago. 2018 20:54, Szem

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

2018-08-17 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
This kind of man-made structure for water transportation is very frequent in Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands and Mediterranean countries. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levada Now most of them are tagged with waterway=ditch. As long as I now, they could be used not only for irrigation

Re: [Tagging] place nodes for continents?

2018-08-07 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
El mar., 7 ago. 2018 a las 10:33, Warin (<61sundow...@gmail.com>) escribió: > But "Officially, there is no centre of Australia." So say the experts. > Probably because they cannot reach consensus, sounds familiar :) > We are extending on the "centre" problem, but there aren't even a consensus in

Re: [Tagging] place nodes for continents?

2018-08-07 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hi Frederik You can find many examples of places that are verifiable by its boundary, some countries, provinces, municipalities, but most of the names in geography refers to diffuse places, from towns to the Amazon Forest (cross link to Wikidata tag thread). Can't we map them in OSM? For such

Re: [Tagging] place nodes for continents?

2018-08-07 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
El mar., 7 ago. 2018 a las 9:33, althio () escribió: > I agree this position is debatable and finally arbitrary. > Hi Althio Then should we delete this node or abstain to create place nodes for continents? Or should we give a try to the debate and move to a better position? The same applies to

Re: [Tagging] place nodes for continents?

2018-08-07 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Alvin Villar () escribió: > > > On Tuesday, August 7, 2018, Javier Sánchez Portero > wrote: > > The same applies to other place nodes like oceans, seas, natural bays, > straits, etc. > > At the risk of forking this discussion to another topic, I'd like to point >

[Tagging] (no subject)

2018-08-29 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
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Re: [Tagging] waterway=fish_pass consistency

2018-07-19 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
rom spillways, canals and other man made waterways, > they are not a sub class to them. > If they are not to be considered part of the waterway key then possibly > they can be added to the key man_made. > > > On 19/07/18 17:57, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: > > Hello > > I

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fish_pass consistency

2018-07-19 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hello I personally prefer a few main values in the waterway to define the general cases and subtags for specific cases like this, of the type of usage = fiss_pass. If I am in front of an infrastructure of this type, its physical characteristics will allow me to distinguish if it is a channel,

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-30 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
El vie., 30 mar. 2018 8:54, escribió: > While it has never been used before, the logical key to me would be > self_service:conditional following the usual rules for conditional keys. > I agree. It will require only a minor change in the conditional restrictions

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-30 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
gt;>> >>> Some places will always clean the windscreen while waiting for the >>> refill, but don't this is something to tag special as you can always ask >>> the attendant to clean them. >>> >>> In some countries it differs, so I suggest to tag things

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-29 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-03-29 15:22 GMT+01:00 Javier Sánchez Portero <javiers...@gmail.com>: > 2018-03-29 13:14 GMT+01:00 Michal Fabík <michal.fa...@gmail.com>: > >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero >> <javiers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Sor

[Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-29 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been used the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if you have to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self service mode. Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo. I'm confused

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-31 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-03-30 11:37 GMT+01:00 : > Based on the information provided here: > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel#Service > > > > and what was stated in previous posts on the mailing list, I would guess > that the correct tags would be: > > >

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-29 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Opsss! There was a mention to it in the Tag:amenity=fuel wiki. I didn't see it. Thank you. 2018-03-29 13:14 GMT+01:00 Michal Fabík <michal.fa...@gmail.com>: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero > <javiers...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, english i

Re: [Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
The definition of the tag building=grandstand says that they are "usually" roofed, this implies that not always are roofed. I understand that the tag leisure=bleachers is discouraged for not being British English. Javier 2018-04-04 8:27 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wójcik : > Reading

Re: [Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-04-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk>: > > > On 4 April 2018 08:44:08 BST, "Javier Sánchez Portero" < > javiers...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bleachers are open structures, usually associated with American High > School and University

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

2018-10-08 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I'm not arguing about any particular tagging, but I would like to point the fact that the map you send uses different colours for Three Lakes and for the named lakes (Chloya and Twin Islands lakes). The lakes have blue labels denoting that the name is for a water body while the group of lakes is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging suggestions for electricity

2018-09-03 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
That was in the past, but now there is a visual editor very easy to use. El lun., 3 sept. 2018 a las 1:52, Dave Swarthout () escribió: > One of the biggest problems with "creating a proposal" is that the Wiki > markup language is so painfully tedious I've taken pains to avoid it. > People always

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I answer inline to Paul and Markus El dom., 9 dic. 2018 a las 15:12, Paul Allen () escribió: > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM dktue wrote: > >> >> I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place >> you reach when you call 112 in Europe). >> > > Why? > > As far as I know,