Re: [Tagging] New key proposal - paved=yes/no

2014-09-23 Thread Warin
On 24/09/2014 1:27 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:43:07 +0200 From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] New key proposal - paved=yes/no Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] RFC Bag shop

2014-10-27 Thread Warin
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:46:45 +0100 From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] RFC Bag shop Message-ID: cabptjtczkn_qr+jjhpkiku7dy5cnvtmhjypzxq9dt6kkuv1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type:

Re: [Tagging] How to tag severely destroyed forest track?

2014-10-27 Thread Warin
I would tag for the 'usual condition' of the track. And updating the map for a tempory situation is not realistic? And as you say the indication of the track should remain, at least while it is visiable and of use to navigation. While the smothenss may not go far enough .. tag it as best you

Re: [Tagging] path vs footway

2014-11-03 Thread Warin
On 4/11/2014 10:30 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 6 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:14:11 +0900 From: johnw jo...@mac.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] path vs footway Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 62, Issue 14

2014-11-04 Thread Warin
On 5/11/2014 12:59 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:58:39 +0100 From: Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] bridleways / Re: path vs footway Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] hitch rack for horses

2014-11-08 Thread Warin
On 8/11/2014 7:27 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:14:45 -0700 From: Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] hitch rack for horses Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Rooftop parking - new parking=rooftop value?

2014-11-11 Thread Warin
of the world would not these efforts be better spent in improving the map elsewhere? :) - Warin Presently considering a holiday in India .. and making editorials there to get the routing working (and adding things as I see them while doing those corrections

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31

2014-11-11 Thread Warin
On 12/11/2014 9:35 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: A non-potable water introduces two problems: 1) a mapper may not know if the water is potable or not; there may be no way to check it or he may not be able to do it; still adding a water source is useful; 2) I don't like creating

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-11-12 Thread Warin
On 12/11/2014 8:34 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:06:15 +0100 From: Pierenpier...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-11-18 Thread Warin
On 18/11/2014 9:53 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:25:34 +0100 From: Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-03 Thread Warin
On 4/12/2014 10:14 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:13:43 +0100 From: Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap (Kotya Karapetyan)

2014-12-04 Thread Warin
tags. Simply the additional information can be added. Warin, I don't know if you followed the discussion and saw the proposal in the wiki. In short, it all started with the lack of good option to map a source of non-potable water, like a water tap. It evolved from there to the current state

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-04 Thread Warin
Karapetyan) Message-ID: cabptjtaphvzhj31rld1s5awfo2bntryve+mqmv-eu_mubjd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 2014-12-04 12:03 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: The main choice for water tap is between man_made = water_tap or amenity = water_tap. I have

Re: [Tagging] man_made=adit_entrance

2014-12-07 Thread Warin
On 7/12/2014 11:00 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 19:43:36 +0100 From: Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] man_made=adit_entrance Message-ID: 54834e58.8000...@volki.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Re: [Tagging] Moveable objects tagged as building=*

2014-12-11 Thread Warin
On 12/12/2014 3:44 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:05:03 -0800 From: Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Moveable objects tagged as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs. optional, cycletracks) (Mateusz Konieczny)

2014-12-22 Thread Warin
On 22/12/2014 9:09 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: 2014-12-22 6:24 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com mailto:matkoni...@gmail.com: No, no, no. In my opinion, there are a few nos missing here. So I'll add at least one more: no. Well, make that two: No. Let me

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs., optional cycletracks)

2014-12-22 Thread Warin
On 22/12/2014 11:00 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:53:53 +0100 From: Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs.

Re: [Tagging] Accuracy of survey

2014-12-23 Thread Warin
On 24/12/2014 11:29 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:37:34 +0100 From: Rainer Fügenstein r...@oudeis.org To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] Accuracy of survey Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-12-29 Thread Warin
On 29/12/2014 9:33 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 8 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 02:18:28 -0800 From: Bryce Nesbittbry...@obviously.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

Re: [Tagging] Accuracy of survey

2014-12-29 Thread Warin
On 30/12/2014 6:41 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 15:27:23 +0100 From: Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com To: Rainer Fügenstein r...@oudeis.org, Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Accuracy

Re: [Tagging] Tagging private property

2015-01-02 Thread Warin
On 2/01/2015 6:03 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 05:00:24 + From: Megha Shresthameghashrest...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] Tagging private property Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2015-01-02 Thread Warin
On 2/01/2015 11:00 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 11:31:36 +0100 From: Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-01-03 Thread Warin
On 3/01/2015 4:56 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 04:45:24 +0100 From: Andreas Gossandi...@t-online.de To:tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

Re: [Tagging] Ford and other river crossing : (was : waterway=wadi problem)

2015-01-24 Thread Warin
On 25/01/2015 5:39 AM, Eric SIBERT wrote: I wonder if there are enough of them to warrant their own bridge=*, as there are so many kinds of bridges. I bet we can put a ford tag on the bridge - it might be a simple solution. I agree with your suggestion of using boot bridge=yes and ford=yes as

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-04 Thread Warin
On 4/02/2015 8:59 PM, David Bannon wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 12:58 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: Well, dump_point might be a workable compromise and it plays well with Dave, are we still looking for a name for a new tag when it seems we can work with whats already there ? tourism=camp_site

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-04 Thread Warin
mentioning it (the same way as we in Europe use centigrade without underlying it). Taking into account the international nature of the OSM community, I foresee a significant risk that the map will get populated with invalid values. Warin is right about SI units, but SI is not even strictly followed

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-04 Thread Warin
On 5/02/2015 10:31 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 10:02 +1100, Warin wrote: ...some sensible stuff Warin, I need to head out now and will look at rest of you questions later. But one question, how about a 'flatter' approach ? amenity=dump_point (or dump_station ...) amenity=dog

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-04 Thread Warin
On 5/02/2015 9:02 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 08:23 +1100, Warin wrote: The 'amenity=waste_disposal does not look to have been through an aproval process ... nor does any tag. The 'approval process' is voluntary .. Not sure I agree there ! There is an approval process

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-02 Thread Warin
On 3/02/2015 8:10 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:54 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Once again, we are divided by a common language. In American usage, a cistern is a holding tank for captured rain water, used as an

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-02 Thread Warin
On 3/02/2015 8:46 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 2 February 2015 at 05:56, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Not found an OSM sewer dump point key. Lots of United Kingdom canals have these. See also: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumpout http

[Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-02 Thread Warin
Hi, Reading the wiki on key:amenity=waste_disposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_disposal says .. it is not for 'watery waste disposal' .. yet the key:waste says it is for 'watery waste disposal' It needs a rewrite into a sensible thing! That is consistent! And

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-02 Thread Warin
waste=* subkeys for recyclable items, paper items, etc. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Reading the wiki on key:amenity=waste_disposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_disposal says

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-02 Thread Warin
and human waste, many caravans and motorhomes have chemical toilets and need a very specific dump station to empty. In most cases, its not acceptable to empty them into a a normal toilet, the chemicals some people use can devastate a septic tank. Warin, I am a bit surprised you have added

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-06 Thread Warin
On 5/02/2015 12:04 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: You mean a one step? Like highway= x ? To do that I'd think a new supper key waste= at the top level! And maybe that is what it needs

Re: [Tagging] courtyards

2015-02-07 Thread Warin
On 7/02/2015 6:03 PM, Alex Rollin wrote: imho a courtyard is related to leisure. why for: because a courtyard matters to people with leisure time and it is a luxury of sorts. why against: perhaps a courtyard is a sequestered area/way as it is often tagger highway designated footpath as an

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-02 Thread Warin
Done. Thanks .. I knew there was one out there somewhere. I think amenity=dump_station needs to be redone, the reasons for its rejection by some have been outdated by the quoted tags evolving over time making amenity=dump_station essential. . On 2/02/2015 9:29 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: I

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-05 Thread Warin
Hi, Request for comment on new tag 'amenity=reception_desk' https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dreception_desk This comes out of the tag ON HT E tourism=camp_site WIKI PAGE which has a sub key of camp_site=reception. As 'Receptions' are numerous outside of camp sites I think

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-05 Thread Warin
I have just proposed a new tag of amenity=reception_desk, this would obsolete the camp_site=reception as I think reception should be available for use in hotels, offices etc. Just alereting the camp site people who may miss the new proposed key.

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-07 Thread Warin
On 5/02/2015 12:04 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: You mean a one step? Like highway= x ? To do that I'd think a new supper key waste= at the top level! And maybe that is what it needs

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-07 Thread Warin
On 8/02/2015 3:41 AM, Kotya Karapetyan wrote: Amenity is the best fit for this tag. I disagree. (Usually that just means I didn't find anything better) +1 Amenity is very vague in general (), and a lot of things can be marked as such. So I'd prefer to use it only when it's an obvious choice

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-07 Thread Warin
On 7/02/2015 9:15 PM, Andreas Goss wrote: Amenity is the best fit for this tag. I disagree. (Usually that just means I didn't find anything better) As this tag is always going to be used within another entity Always is such a large word. What about a hut that is used only for reception?

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-07 Thread Warin
On 8/02/2015 1:18 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Actually, I was not referring to a new top level tag of waste=* but to amenity=dump_point. I quoted from the previous post but that was very misleading. I wanted to avoid the proliferation of waste types that must be associated with a new tag of

Re: [Tagging] courtyards

2015-02-08 Thread Warin
On 9/02/2015 1:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: From a technical point of view they are typically associated with fire protection (way to leave the building, access for firefighters), If the courtyard is fully enclosed by buildings or by one building .. they are not part of a fire escape

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-08 Thread Warin
A proposal for a new high level tag of .. Rubbish :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features_key%3Drubbish At present there as a number of 'waste' values under the amenity key. Some people say the amenity key is being over used. There are people thinking of adding more waste

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
On 4/02/2015 9:38 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: I think dump station is probably intended to refer to facilities intended to receive the sewage from chemical toilets on board recreational vehicles, and from man-portable chemical toilets (basically a bucket with a seat and a tight-fitting lid).

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
On 3/02/2015 7:51 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Feb 1, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Warin wrote: On 2/02/2015 10:22 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: I would like to have some of the items on Extend_camp_site page brought onto the main camp_site page. Specifically the site

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
On 4/02/2015 9:38 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: There is no documentation of the waste= values .. if you want to add them go ahead. Anything there would be an improvement. I check on the UK terms for chemical toilets ..

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
On 3/02/2015 7:51 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Feb 1, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Warin wrote: On 2/02/2015 10:22 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: I would like to have some of the items on Extend_camp_site page brought onto the main camp_site page. Specifically the site

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
On 3/02/2015 5:03 PM, David Bannon wrote: In the context where this discussion came up, camp_sites, I'd suggest waste=chemical_toilet is the one we are interested in. The waste=excrement mentions boat. Boat facilities are distinctly different, usually relying on a large hose connecting the two

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
Done .. well at least a first attempt. Ok.. I've hacked at the words, added some tag links and given examples of the waste= key on the main page just so people can see it includes some things they have not thought of? I hope it is better , more inclusive - less exclusive. Complaints,

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread Warin
at 7:02 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/02/2015 9:38 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: There is no documentation of the waste= values .. if you want to add them go ahead. Anything there would be an improvement. I check on the UK

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

2015-01-14 Thread Warin
; charset=UTF-8 Hi, On 01/14/2015 01:28 AM, Warin wrote: What is the basic philosophy of OSM tagging at the top level? There is no basic philosophy at the top level from which everything else can be derived. It's like evolution - some things are a bit strange but you can often understand them

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=* (Hubert)

2015-01-19 Thread Warin
On 20/01/2015 2:44 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:44:20 +0100 From: Hubert sg.fo...@gmx.de To: 'Tag discussion, strategy and related tools' tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=* Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-01-19 Thread Warin
On 20/01/2015 10:38 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:41:27 +0100 From: Peter Wendorffwendo...@uni-paderborn.de To:tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality Message-ID:54bd5de7.2070...@uni-paderborn.de Content-Type:

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

2015-01-20 Thread Warin
On 21/01/2015 10:03 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:43:16 + From: Lukas Sommersommer...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-01-20 Thread Warin
On 20/01/2015 6:55 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:55:37 +0100 From: Volker Schmidtvosc...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-01-18 Thread Warin
On 18/01/2015 5:14 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 00:14:36 -0600 From: John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org, Volker Schmidtvosc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging road

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: A hotel room that has air conditioning may be both heated or cooled depending on the desired temperature and the ambient temperature

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 4:34 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Nobody votes because it's a borderline pointless endeavor. Yep. Thus things don't get approved due to lack of votes because few

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Most air conditioners here have the ability to both heat and cool at least here and in the UK. Technically, a unit that can either

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 9:57 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you consider heated and cooled an 'interesting characteristic' and how do you see it being rendered on to a map? Is it more 'important

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
Getting further and further away from tag:temperature= On 12/02/2015 12:37 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On February 11, 2015 6:16:39 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] Nominatim mysteries

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
Hi, The OSM data is in English. And the data you are trying to search for is tagged amenity=recycling or amenity=recycling_point. Your trying to search for it using French terms (as shown in the table you have below) .. some work, some don't. This would be an application issue? Rather than

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 1:23 PM, johnw wrote: On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Kotya Karapetyan kotya.li...@gmail.com wrote: 1) +1 to drop Kelvins. 2) heated/cooled is a nice idea, but I wouldn't like seeing too many top level tags. Danger-cold cold cool mild warm hot danger-hot I don’t think is

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-02-17 Thread Warin
On 18/02/2015 11:07 AM, John Willis wrote: Religious landuse is not about saying that the ground is religious, any more than saying landuse=retail is land that is for sale - it is for the land dedicated to a facility where people worship - just as retail is where people sell, and residential

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-17 Thread Warin
On 18/02/2015 11:33 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com mailto:bry...@obviously.com wrote: You can recycle all sorts of existing tags, there is no need to invent new ones: Exactly. If we adopt a top level amenity tag for our

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-17 Thread Warin
On 18/02/2015 5:42 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbek...@gmail.com mailto:jan.vanbek...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for the middle option: waste=dump_station. My main reason is that it consistent with the existing system and that there will

Re: [Tagging] elsan v dump_station

2015-02-18 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 8:33 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 12:33 -0800, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: amenity=elsan_point ? While it's opaque in the usa, at least it's not ambiguous. or amenity=checmical_toilet_disposal_point. Bryce, here in Australia, we use a lot of UK terms (and frown on the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:waste_collection

2015-02-18 Thread Warin
After over a week of comments on the proposal of a new key rubbish= .. this is the replacement by a new proposal for the new key: waste_collection. The same points for this proposal exist as for the key:rubbish .. but with a better name.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - dump_station

2015-02-18 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 8:19 AM, David Bannon wrote: Subject renamed for clarity. * leaving it as it is - easy choice * Adding dump_station to waste= - consistent with whats there now. * Adding dump_station to amenity= - easier to map (?) ...I vote for the middle option: waste=dump_station On Wed,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-02-12 Thread Warin
On 13/02/2015 3:38 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de writes: Am 18.01.2015 um 07:14 schrieb John F. Eldredge: You could use a light meter to measure how bright the light is. That isn't the only factor in the suitability of the lighting, but it is objective. ...

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-12 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 9:43 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why is a node needed? Here some samples.. Do you have any examples where a specific temperature is measurable? Do you imagine these tags getting used for buildings like motel rooms, huts and caves: and if so what's the suggested tagging scheme for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 6:08 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:51 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com mailto:jo...@mac.com wrote: Danger-cold cold cool mild warm hot danger-hot What are some example nodes, where this proposed tag may apply, and how you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-12 Thread Warin
On 12/02/2015 7:30 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: I'd add the tag to any node where I thought the temperature important, significant and I knew the temperature .. even if only subjective .. such as hot. If the temperature changes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-17 Thread Warin
On 18/02/2015 8:32 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 10:30 -0800, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: It's hard to go far wrong with a dedicated tag for a feature with: 1) A strong clear definition 2) That features prominently on printed recreation maps, with a standard icon. 3) Has a large

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 7:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: there are also few amenity=maze and historic and tourism. The key attraction is used according to the wiki for features on a playground or in a theme park. Given the huge variety of maze types (ranging from built ones in masonry, ones made of

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 8:15 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The problem with tourism=attraction attraction=maze Is that attraction is a top level tag, not a subtag of tourism=attraction. So maybe: tourism=attraction type=maze subtypes=labyrinth;hedge I'd do tourism=maze ... similar to zoo, theme park,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:waste_collection

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 9:59 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-02-18 23:09 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/waste_collection I believe there are still some issues with this proposal. For one the concept

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Draft - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 11:01 PM, ael wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:23:38PM -0800, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: It's clear there's on one term that's perfect. Moving on, here is: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station That looks fine. Although not common in UK English, it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
Would apply to travellers flying or going on a sea voyage for some time. The parking= key looks to give information on the physical layout of the parking - underground/ground level only, multi-story etc. So may not be the best place for this information? Would not the tag maxstay give some

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
Oh .. you want to determine if the parking is covered or not? then http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered and/or use the present values of the key parking= underground, sheds, carports, garage_boxes, multi-storey ? any other value or missing tags take as uncovered? Adds no tags ..

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-16 Thread Warin
On 17/02/2015 6:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net mailto:dban...@internode.on.net wrote: To summarise discussion, structures like - amenity=campsite campsite=waste_disposal waste=chemical_toilet is a bit clumsy given how

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - power_supply=intermittent

2015-02-16 Thread Warin
On 17/02/2015 6:47 AM, Jan van Bekkum wrote: Please comment the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/power_supply%3Dintermittentto add the value /intermittent /to the key/power_supply./ Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards, /Jan van Bekkum/

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - power_supply=intermittent

2015-02-16 Thread Warin
On 17/02/2015 6:50 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Intermittent is an attribute, not a top level value. For example, it should be possible to tag a NEMA 5-15 as intermittent. so a tag sequence of power_supply=nema_5_15 power_supply:intermittent=yes ? And then for my previous comments become;

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-16 Thread Warin
On 16/02/2015 11:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-02-08 23:15 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com: A proposal for a new high level tag of .. Rubbish :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features_key%3Drubbish At present

Re: [Tagging] high mobile masts on man_made=mast

2015-02-16 Thread Warin
On 16/02/2015 11:33 PM, fly wrote: Be careful some mast as support for wind generators might be entered. Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower. Cheers fly An antenna is not a mast nor a tower, just as a wind generator is not a mast nor a tower. They may be

Re: [Tagging] RFC aerialway=zip line

2015-02-18 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 8:55 AM, John Willis wrote: Btw the playground-type zipwires which I see in nearby parks are around 50 meters, are the 10m types predominant in your place? Richard Something so dangerous in the US for children's playgrounds were removed a long time ago, but in Japan, they

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Quay

2015-01-27 Thread Warin
On 27/01/2015 9:29 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: (This discussion originated on talk - crossposted to tagging on Malcolm's suggestion) On 26/01/2015 21:16, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Harbour#Quay

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Warin
On 28/01/2015 3:26 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: E.g.: a 17-degree mapped mountain road or San Francisco street's will get its actual length a 5% bonus compared to its real-life counterpart. True, but such roads are not very common (17 degree ~= 30%). There are a few short streets in places like San

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-28 Thread Warin
On 28/01/2015 8:41 PM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: Hello Warin, Wednesday, January 28, 2015, 8:48:16 AM, you wrote: W Request For Discussion W http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance thanks for picking up thus topic. I have to leave in a few minutes for a 6 week assignment, therefore

[Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-27 Thread Warin
Request For Discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance Pipe lines currently exist for non drinking water in various part of the world. And have done for some time. They are becoming more numerous as efforts to save water and reduce environmental impacts increase.

Re: [Tagging] Lifecycle concepts, REMOVED

2015-01-28 Thread Warin
On 29/01/2015 12:28 AM, althio wrote: removed: (features that do not exist anymore or never existed but are commonly seen on other sources) I propose to remove the part or never existed but are commonly seen on other sources, because this has nothing to do with removed. If people want to tag

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-30 Thread Warin
On 31/01/2015 1:47 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: On 30/01/2015 14:12, St Niklaas wrote: From: François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com Since OSM editing tools aren't AutoCAD you can't be 100% precise on the geometry. Exactly so. Francois if you’re using JOSM you’re be able to work up till

[Tagging] Temperature tag

2015-01-30 Thread Warin
The wiki page for temperature https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:temperature has been empty for some time.. I've taken the plunge and made some entries .. see what you think! Any ideas for improvements will be gratefully recived. Critisium without a suggestion as to how to improve, less

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-01-30 Thread Warin
On 31/01/2015 3:18 PM, David Bannon wrote: On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 14:55 +1100, Warin wrote: ... I think the following things should be mapped to add information to the map in regards some, mainly commercial, camp grounds that have communal kitchens; Warin, I recently was looking

[Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-01-30 Thread Warin
Hi, Follow a thread on another forum (non OSM, but talking about side issues) I think the following things should be mapped to add information to the map in regards some, mainly commercial, camp grounds that have communal kitchens; stove top (no, not a bbq) microwave_oven fridge (or

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

2015-01-25 Thread Warin
On 26/01/2015 12:44 PM, johnw wrote: Or does this go back to it should be shop:jewelry=watches or shop=jewelry + jewelry=watches problem? Javbw If so, then lets try to decide on a flat or categorized system that can handle new additions without a lot of hemming and hawing every time a new

Re: [Tagging] Temperature tag

2015-01-31 Thread Warin
it but I made a few edits I felt will help clarify what you are proposing. Cheers, AlaskaDave On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: The wiki page for temperature https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:temperature has been

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 1/02/2015 8:31 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: cistern in English implies underground or covered. You want something like man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as fish?-water tank) or man_made=storage storage=water On 31 January 2015 at 00:49, S Volk svo...@hotmail.com

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 1/02/2015 7:47 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad of facilities out there.

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