Re: [Tagging] "sym" tag

2018-07-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


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> On 24. Jul 2018, at 20:56, José G Moya Y.  wrote:
> 
> In fact, know it's not church but a hermit.


In case you didn’t find it, there’s amenity=monastery and 
monastery:type=hermitage to tag a hermitage.

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Re: [Tagging] "sym" tag

2018-07-24 Thread José G Moya Y .
El mar., 24 jul. 2018 17:38, Andy Townsend  escribió:

What you would need to do would be different for the next one though.  You
can't assume that (e.g. "sym=church" actually means a church on the
ground.  You'll have to do this on a case by case basis.

In fact, know it's not church but a hermit.

Regarding the rendering, I've discovered there was a
amenity=place_of_worship  node hidden under the marker of the node I was
talking about. That explains it being rendered.

El mar., 24 jul. 2018 17:38, Andy Townsend  escribió:

> On 24/07/2018 15:59, José G Moya Y. wrote:
>
> I've found some places of worship tagged with the undocumented
> "sym=church" tag.
>
>
> They're from Garmin waypoints.  See
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sym for other examples.  Don't
> just mechanically edit them, because there are likely other (different)
> issues with each one.
>
> Taking a specific example:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1420261739/history
>
> (according to Overpass that's the nearest "sym" to where I am right now)
>
> Here there are a couple of obvious issues:
>
>- It has an unfeasibly accurate "ele" tag
>- It has a "sym" tag which makes no sense
>- The "time" tag isn't really relevant to OSM
>- It's on a the T-junction of 3 walls.
>
>
> In this case I'd:
>
>- Verify the gate location from imagery if possible (likely it's north
>of south of the wall join)
>- Remove the "sym" tag
>- Remove the "time" tag
>- Remove the decimal points from the "ele" tag (or remove it
>altogether if it looks unfeasible)
>- Upload to OSM with a changeset comment that said what you did and
>why, and what imagery you used.
>
>
> What you would need to do would be different for the next one though.  You
> can't assume that (e.g. "sym=church" actually means a church on the
> ground.  You'll have to do this on a case by case basis.
>
>
> It's surprising to see how these places are being rendered as churches despite
> of this tag does not appear in the wiki (and no other tag related with
> worship is in the place).
>
>
> I'd be really surprised if any software (other than Garmin's waypoint
> display) actually renders these as churches.
>
> However, I'm sure that lots of maps renders things that aren't listed in
> the wiki (different types of shops is an obvious example).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [Tagging] "sym" tag

2018-07-24 Thread Andy Townsend

On 24/07/2018 15:59, José G Moya Y. wrote:
I've found some places of worship tagged with the undocumented 
"sym=church" tag.


They're from Garmin waypoints.  See 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sym for other examples. Don't 
just mechanically edit them, because there are likely other (different) 
issues with each one.


Taking a specific example:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1420261739/history

(according to Overpass that's the nearest "sym" to where I am right now)

Here there are a couple of obvious issues:

 * It has an unfeasibly accurate "ele" tag
 * It has a "sym" tag which makes no sense
 * The "time" tag isn't really relevant to OSM
 * It's on a the T-junction of 3 walls.


In this case I'd:

 * Verify the gate location from imagery if possible (likely it's north
   of south of the wall join)
 * Remove the "sym" tag
 * Remove the "time" tag
 * Remove the decimal points from the "ele" tag (or remove it
   altogether if it looks unfeasible)
 * Upload to OSM with a changeset comment that said what you did and
   why, and what imagery you used.


What you would need to do would be different for the next one though.  
You can't assume that (e.g. "sym=church" actually means a church on the 
ground.  You'll have to do this on a case by case basis.




It's surprising to see how these places are being rendered as churches 
despite of this tag does not appear in the wiki (and no other tag 
related with worship is in the place).


I'd be really surprised if any software (other than Garmin's waypoint 
display) actually renders these as churches.


However, I'm sure that lots of maps renders things that aren't listed in 
the wiki (different types of shops is an obvious example).


Best Regards,

Andy

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[Tagging] "sym" tag

2018-07-24 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi!
I've found some places of worship tagged with the undocumented "sym=church"
tag.
It appears to be added from some old software, since the"name" tag in the
same element is truncated to eight characters.

It's surprising to see how these places are being rendered as churches despite
of this tag does not appear in the wiki (and no other tag related with
worship is in the place).

Should I delete the "sym" tag after tagging the building with a more proper
tag?

Yours,
José G. Moya Yangüela
Spain
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