Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread pangoSE
Hi Cj Cj Malone skrev: (23 augusti 2020 23:56:33 CEST) >> Not exactly a very user-friendly system though, especially if you're >> only trying to review requested changes? >> >> & with somewhere between 300k - 600k changes sitting there to look >> at, I don't think the chances are all that high

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM Matthew Woehlke wrote: > Does it really only use the changeset bounding box? That's good as a > first-pass culling test, but I would be somewhat annoyed if my ROI is > "Chicago, IL" and I get notified because someone changed Kansas City, MO > and Detroit, MI in

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 24/08/2020 00.47, Jonathon Rossi wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:22 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:05, Jonathon Rossi wrote: Andrew, how do you specify a polygon, always wanted to do that but I thought OSMCha only supports a bbox? [...] So at the top you should see a

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 10:40 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 15:27, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> I watch flagged changesets in my state, all changesets in my county and >> all changesets by people I've flagged to watch. I review all edits of new >> mappers to offer them

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2020, at 04:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > You can tag the changeset in OSMCha as Good or Bad, but unfortunately no > middle ground of just "Reviewed". on the other hand, if you can’t tell whether it is good it probably isn’t reviewed either... Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 15:27, Clifford Snow wrote: > I watch flagged changesets in my state, all changesets in my county and > all changesets by people I've flagged to watch. I review all edits of new > mappers to offer them tips if needed. For flagged changesets in the state > and all

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I watch flagged changesets in my state, all changesets in my county and all changesets by people I've flagged to watch. I review all edits of new mappers to offer them tips if needed. For flagged changesets in the state and all changesets in my county I review ones that seem interesting. If they

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
I read it as the changeset bbox intersects your location boundary where your location boundary could be an arbitrary polygon, not that your area of interest bbox. You can make a suggestion on the OSMCha issue tracker if you have a better idea though. On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:47, Jonathon Rossi

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:22 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:05, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Harvey >> wrote: >> >>> In OSMCha you can create a Filter, and in the Filter creation screen set >>> a polygon area you're interested in

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:21, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I think OSMCha is really good, but it does have room for improvement. I > get confused between saving a filter and applying the filter, and there is > a bug which will show the polygon from the previously selected filter, it's > very fiddly so

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:05, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> In OSMCha you can create a Filter, and in the Filter creation screen set >> a polygon area you're interested in monitoring >> > > Andrew, how do you specify a polygon, always

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > In OSMCha you can create a Filter, and in the Filter creation screen set a > polygon area you're interested in monitoring > Andrew, how do you specify a polygon, always wanted to do that but I thought OSMCha only supports a bbox? You can

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
It'll sit there, but other people looking at OSMCha will see you marked it as good so they might choose to not bother checking it, or still check it anyway. You could probably add to the filter to exclude ones marked as Good, depending if you want to check those too. On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 13:02,

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 12:11, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > In OSMCha you can mark as good or bad, but no way to say it's been > reviewed without explicitly saying good/bad. > Thanks, Andrew! If you mark it as good, does it then disappear, or just sit there forever? Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 14:55, pangoSE wrote: > And we have no statistics or functionality to mark a changeser as revieed > so nobody knows how many reviews are done and how many falls through the > cracks. We could make a tool that lists all changesets with a review > request and no comments. >

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 15:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 08:13, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to >> view and post a comment back to the user. >> > > Thanks! > > Not exactly a very user-friendly

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Cj Malone
> Not exactly a very user-friendly system though, especially if you're > only trying to review requested changes? > > & with somewhere between 300k - 600k changes sitting there to look > at, I don't think the chances are all that high that somebody will > spot any errors! On the face of it I

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread pangoSE
Hi Shawn "Shawn K. Quinn" skrev: (23 augusti 2020 19:01:53 CEST) >On 8/22/20 23:53, pangoSE wrote: >> And we have no statistics or functionality to mark a changeser as >> revieed so nobody knows how many reviews are done and how many falls >> through the cracks. We could make a tool that lists

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 8/22/20 23:53, pangoSE wrote: > And we have no statistics or functionality to mark a changeser as > revieed so nobody knows how many reviews are done and how many falls > through the cracks. We could make a tool that lists all changesets > with a review request and no comments. Good idea. I'd

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 08:13, Clifford Snow wrote: > osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to > view and post a comment back to the user. > Thanks! Not exactly a very user-friendly system though, especially if you're only trying to review requested changes? &

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi "Jarek Piórkowski" skrev: (23 augusti 2020 00:41:40 CEST) >On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:12, Clifford Snow >wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: >>> Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & >ticked the box "I would like someone to review my

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:12, Clifford Snow wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: >> Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & ticked the >> box "I would like someone to review my edits", which apparently didn't >> happen at the time? >> >>

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Clifford Snow
osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to view and post a comment back to the user. On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:53, Cj Malone < > me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote: > >> 1 - It was

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:53, Cj Malone < me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote: > 1 - It was introduced by a novice mapper, presumably as a typeo. > Not picking on Nathan, as we've all had the occasional ooops! Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & ticked the

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi Mateusz Thanks for the link. I agree that forcing someone to map is a bad idea. Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging skrev: (22 augusti 2020 10:54:57 CEST) >Also, his was poorly organized Organised Editing and  this person was >forced >to map in OSM by badly designed university assigment. > >If

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Thanks for sharing. I have no intention of contacting the user in question. It was just an illustrative example. I don't know why this was posted to the tagging list. I intend to keep this discussion on the talk list so please respond there to keep the discussion together. Cj Malone skrev:

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Also, his was poorly organized Organised Editing and  this person was forced to map in OSM by badly designed university assigment. If anything that is proof that forcing people to map in OSM is even less useful than expected. ( according to

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Cj Malone
On Sat, 2020-08-22 at 09:32 +0200, pangoSE wrote: > Building upon it can lead to strange things. E.g. > https://www.nyteknik.se/popularteknik/mystisk-jatteskrapa-dok-upp-i-flygsimulator-6999771 > (building:levels=212 was entered erroneously and committed to the > database without any kind of QA

[Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread pangoSE
Hi 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk skrev: (22 augusti 2020 03:06:37 CEST) >  >Also there is no wiki on unverified edits. >  In OSM we don't yet have an established system for verification or accurate machine readable references for the data to my knowledge. This means the whole database is