Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-12-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/9 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl

 Just to keep you up-to-date: the data working group has not responded
 yet to my request for approval of this mechanical edit. They have not
 indicated a time span they need to decide, or even acknowledged
 receipt, so at this moment, I cannot give any further information on
 whether or when the mechanical edit will happen.



It sounds strange to me that the DWG would approve an edit beforehand.
Usually it is the community to approve such actions (if they are possible
at all). Where did you get the idea from that DWG should or would approve
a mechanical edit?

cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-12-09 Thread Dan S
2013/12/9 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:

 2013/12/9 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl

 Just to keep you up-to-date: the data working group has not responded
 yet to my request for approval of this mechanical edit. They have not
 indicated a time span they need to decide, or even acknowledged
 receipt, so at this moment, I cannot give any further information on
 whether or when the mechanical edit will happen.

 It sounds strange to me that the DWG would approve an edit beforehand.
 Usually it is the community to approve such actions (if they are possible at
 all). Where did you get the idea from that DWG should or would approve a
 mechanical edit?

Matthijs says it quite clearly in his proposal page: Although not a
formal requirement either, I have asked the Data Working Group for
permission before carrying out this edit.

(You may be right that it's odd to get the DWG explicitly involved in
such pre-approval, and they might not want to set that precedent...
but I guess the DWG will have more to say about that than me...)

Dan

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Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-12-09 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 9 December 2013 11:35, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
 It sounds strange to me that the DWG would approve an edit beforehand.
 Usually it is the community to approve such actions (if they are possible at
 all). Where did you get the idea from that DWG should or would approve a
 mechanical edit?

The edit has been approved by the community (at least on this list),
and I would expect that the DWG does not take actions that go against
the wish of the community, but still I think it would be better to
obtain explicit permission. Especially given the fact that there are
not much precedents for this type of mechanical edit, I think it is
best to tread lightly.

Technically, the DWG only has the power to roll back mechanical edits,
not to approve them in advance. However, I think potential disapproval
in advance would be preferable over an edit followed by a roll-back,
which would only create additional workload and frustration on both
sides.

Of course, the DWG might not have enough time to look into it (which
is quite understandable given that the DWG is run by volunteers and
already has a rather high workload), or the DWG might not consider
themselves qualified to answer this question. At this point, I have
unfortunately no way to tell if either of these reasons apply.

Kind regards,
Matthijs

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Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-12-08 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all,

Just to keep you up-to-date: the data working group has not responded
yet to my request for approval of this mechanical edit. They have not
indicated a time span they need to decide, or even acknowledged
receipt, so at this moment, I cannot give any further information on
whether or when the mechanical edit will happen.

Kind regards,
Matthijs

On 18 November 2013 03:24, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote:
 Dear all,

 The voting is closed now. All ten voters have voted 'Approve'. Thank
 you all for voting. I will proceed now with obtaining approval from
 the data working group.

 -- Matthijs

 On 10 November 2013 18:32, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote:
 Dear all,

 So far, only 7 people have voted on this proposal, which involves
 automatically changing all objects tagged with
 shop=musical_instruments into shop=musical_instrument.

 Please note that voting on the feature and voting on the mechanical
 edit are distinct, so if you have voted on the first but not on the
 second, please consider voting again.

 Voting can be done here:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Musical_instrument

 Thanks in advance,
 Matthijs

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Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-11-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all,

The voting is closed now. All ten voters have voted 'Approve'. Thank
you all for voting. I will proceed now with obtaining approval from
the data working group.

-- Matthijs

On 10 November 2013 18:32, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote:
 Dear all,

 So far, only 7 people have voted on this proposal, which involves
 automatically changing all objects tagged with
 shop=musical_instruments into shop=musical_instrument.

 Please note that voting on the feature and voting on the mechanical
 edit are distinct, so if you have voted on the first but not on the
 second, please consider voting again.

 Voting can be done here:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Musical_instrument

 Thanks in advance,
 Matthijs

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[Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-11-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all,

So far, only 7 people have voted on this proposal, which involves
automatically changing all objects tagged with
shop=musical_instruments into shop=musical_instrument.

Please note that voting on the feature and voting on the mechanical
edit are distinct, so if you have voted on the first but not on the
second, please consider voting again.

Voting can be done here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Musical_instrument

Thanks in advance,
Matthijs

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Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013-11-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Nonours,

Yes, that's all, thanks for voting.

I was talking about the description field of the changeset, not of the
individual nodes. The field 'description' is the standard field you
fill in when describing a changeset. I think there is no need to place
a comment at all individual notes of the changeset in this case.

-- Matthijs

On 10 November 2013 19:48, nounours kuessemondtaegl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Matthijs,

 I just changed your page to vote - is that all I have to do? (first time I 
 vote).

 I think the comment on the mechanical edit should go to notes, not 
 description, not? (--- o.k. I see, it's in the policy, but does it make 
 sense??)

 nounours77

 Am 10.11.2013 um 19:32 schrieb Matthijs Melissen:

 Dear all,

 So far, only 7 people have voted on this proposal, which involves
 automatically changing all objects tagged with
 shop=musical_instruments into shop=musical_instrument.

 Please note that voting on the feature and voting on the mechanical
 edit are distinct, so if you have voted on the first but not on the
 second, please consider voting again.

 Voting can be done here:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Musical_instrument

 Thanks in advance,
 Matthijs

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