Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 13. Sept. 2019 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > > In British English (which OSM generally uses) "bulk" means "being large > in size, mass or > volume (of goods, etc.)." See https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bulk > it also means "Unpackaged goods when transported in large volumes, e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-14 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 16:49, Ruben wrote: > > There has been discussion about this on the forum: > https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66456 > > I had drafted a (in retrospect not perfect) proposal as well: >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-14 Thread Ruben
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:07:13 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > I'm not sure if there's a generally-accepted > term for this > in British English yet. I've seen "zero waste" (misleading, because it's > not zero) and > "unpackaged" (also misleading as it is in a package, just not a package > that you can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-13 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 11:04, Antoine Jaury via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > marc marc wrote: > > "well in this case, this shop isn't a bulk_purchase=yes shop > bulk_purchase=* in osm mean that you can BUY item in bulk > not that the shop has a stock of product that he packs for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-13 Thread Antoine Jaury via Tagging
marc marc wrote: "well in this case, this shop isn't a bulk_purchase=yes shop bulk_purchase=* in osm mean that you can BUY item in bulk not that the shop has a stock of product that he packs for you on site. bulk_purchase informs how the customer can have the product and not in what form the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Sep 2019, at 13:52, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Do we even have a remote hope of achieving a > level of completeness and timeliness that makes this usable? if your apprehension comes true and we became the default go-to business directory, then definitely yes (but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-12 Thread marc marc
Le 12.09.19 à 13:52, Frederik Ramm a écrit : > A supermarket chain can introduce paper bags today, discontinue them > next week, and re-introduce plastic bags next month. in theory yes. in practice logistics chains probably change less quickly than the urbanization of agricultural land. if we

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I am generally skeptical of us becoming more and more a business directory. I think that objects in the real world have some real-world, observable properties, like a house that has a certain form and height, or a sign that has been put up, or a bench, and while these properties can change,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-12 Thread marc marc
well in this case, this shop isn't a bulk_purchase=yes shop bulk_purchase=* in osm mean that you can BUY item in bulk not that the shop has a stock of product that he packs for you on site. bulk_purchase informs how the customer can have the product and not in what form the stock in the shop is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-12 Thread Antoine Jaury via Tagging
And sorry Marc but I don't have an article explaining the use of one-use only bag proposed by bulk purchase shops. In my case, I buy only bulk purchase products and it often happen in supermarket for example that you can only use the supermarket's paper bags with a plastic window on the bag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-12 Thread Antoine Jaury via Tagging
Hello, It's not the same as the key bulk_purchase. As explained: " OpenStreetMap allows to identify bulk purchase shops and it exists some applications like https://cartovrac.fr for people who just want a render of these data.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reusable packaging

2019-09-12 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 12.09.19 à 12:20, Antoine Jaury via Tagging a écrit : > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reusable_packaging > Definition: Describes a shop accepting reusable containers from their > customers and/or proposing some it'sn't the same as