Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm completely open to suggestions in this regard. I took the key I've already seen used by some, but if someone comes up with a better idea, great. Am 19.08.2020 18:37 schrieb Volker Schmidt: With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an alternative way of tagging this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm not familiar with such privately owned cemeteries, so others may be better placed. Here are my thoughts from what you write: If there is a crematorium, as I already wrote, I think it's pointless to add such a new tag, because a room like that would probably go with any crematorium anyhow

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Volker Schmidt
With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an alternative way of tagging this function. In various countries and in various religions the approaches on how to say good-bye to the dead are different. I am thinking of the "camera ardente" in Italy or the "Aufbahrung" in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 11:58, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >> >>> On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to >> >> any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. >> >> But typically, they would

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In the US, there are privately owned cemeteries, often with a private funeral home / mortuary building on the site. You can buy a plot and also pay for the funeral services, including the use of a hall for a viewing, reception or funeral service (religious or otherwise). E.g.:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them for burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French call a "funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the funeral directors tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone >> On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote: > I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to any > religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. But > typically, they would be public. let me rephrase my question: how

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. But typically, they would be public. That being said, all cemeteries I know personally are run either by a government entity or a religious denomination;

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 14:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Looking around my local area these have simply been mapped as > amenity=crematorium. i.e. they have not been mapped yet :) a crematorium implies a place to burn dead people or animals, but has no implications on the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
If there is a crematorium, I agree that it should take precedence, and I can't imagine a crematorium without such a room. However, more often than not, there is no crematorium while there is such a funeral hall (quite often actually colloquially called a "chapel", but "chapel" falls under the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 10:26 +0200, woll...@posteo.de wrote: > Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility > (generally) > on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often > associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily. > Looking around my local

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 10:23, woll...@posteo.de wrote: > > Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility must the facility be “public” or could it be a private facility as well? Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility (generally) on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily. Am 19.08.2020 01:36 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: There is already an existing tag with similar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility. Am 19.08.2020 09:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 19. Aug 2020, at 01:38, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. The use of the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 01:38, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: > shop=funeral_directors. > The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so it > seems to be well established:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 09:38, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral homes / > funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. > The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so > it seems to be well

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so it seems to be well established: