Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/10 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk:
 permit=day/season


permit alone seems too ambiguous, I'd go for fishing:permit or permit:fishing

 Then some info on where to obtain a permit.


-0.5, there might be cases where this is a useful information (could
be entered as free text in description or maybe note, or
fishing:license:description) but generally I think this is out of the
scope of OSM. We also don't tag on every highway where you can get
driving licenses ;-)

Cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-11 Thread André Pirard

On 2012-09-10 18:46,  Jason Cunningham wrote :
On 10 September 2012 14:05, Jonathan Bennett 
openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk mailto:openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk 
wrote:


On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr mailto:te...@free.fr wrote:

 I would like to store information about the legality of fishing
a lake, a river, etc.
 Is there already any tag with such a meaning?

fishing=yes/no ?


There is a tag leisure=fishing thats already being used
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dfishing

Bit surprised by the lack of info on the wiki page. I'd have though 
someone would have drawn up proposals for a way to tag other info 
linked to fishing.
With regards to lawfulness of fishing I think it's a bit more 
complicated than yes/no? as pointed out in other emails


Even more surprising, I can't find tagging for a pond or pool, fishery, 
you name it, that was fitted for fishing.

People come and pay for fishing (and the wife sits doing her knitting).

On 2012-09-10 17:53,  John F. Eldredge wrote :
Note that you may need to have both a government-issued fishing 
license and also permission from a landowner, depending upon where you 
are fishing.


Let alone the wife's permission ;-)

Is a map really a good place for a *general* fishing information (database)?
Or is it website=www.local.reglations - other www?

I think that website= is too often overlooked.
I asked JOSM to recall it in their Preset menus.

land (water?) owner *is* of course appropriate, if he agrees to be 
mentioned.


This all recalls me a Natural Science teacher.
- throw any animal in the water, it will come out
- not true
- [cut to the quick] what???
- not the fishes
He told everybody and laughed for 3 days.

André.


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Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-10 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr wrote:

 I would like to store information about the legality of fishing a lake, a 
 river, etc.
 Is there already any tag with such a meaning?

fishing=yes/no ?


-- 
Jonathan (Jonobennett)

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Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 14:05 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
 On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr wrote:
 
  I would like to store information about the legality of fishing a lake, a 
  river, etc.
  Is there already any tag with such a meaning?
 
 fishing=yes/no ?
 
 
fishing=yes/no/permit

permit=day/season

Then some info on where to obtain a permit.

Phil


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Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:

 On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 14:05 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
  On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr wrote:
  
   I would like to store information about the legality of fishing a
 lake, a river, etc.
   Is there already any tag with such a meaning?
  
  fishing=yes/no ?
  
  
 fishing=yes/no/permit
 
 permit=day/season
 
 Then some info on where to obtain a permit.
 
 Phil
 
 
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Note that you may need to have both a government-issued fishing license and 
also permission from a landowner, depending upon where you are fishing.

-- 
John F. Eldredge --  j...@jfeldredge.com
Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:53 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote:

 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:

  On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 14:05 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
   On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr wrote:
  
I would like to store information about the legality of fishing a
  lake, a river, etc.
Is there already any tag with such a meaning?
  
   fishing=yes/no ?
  
  
  fishing=yes/no/permit
 
  permit=day/season
 
  Then some info on where to obtain a permit.
 
  Phil
 

The tag might need additional qualifications, ie. species, sex, etc. For
example salmon season length, and even if there will be a season, depends
on the expected availability of the fish.

Recently someone posted the suggestion of linking to external databases for
this kind of dynamic information. I think that suggest has a lot of merit.
Not sure how the databases would be linked, but at a minimum, the website
of the official authority could be included.

Clifford
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Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-10 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 10 September 2012 14:05, Jonathan Bennett
openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.ukwrote:

 On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr wrote:

  I would like to store information about the legality of fishing a lake,
 a river, etc.
  Is there already any tag with such a meaning?

 fishing=yes/no ?


There is a tag leisure=fishing thats already being used
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dfishing

Bit surprised by the lack of info on the wiki page. I'd have though someone
would have drawn up proposals for a way to tag other info linked to fishing.
With regards to lawfulness of fishing I think it's a bit more complicated
than yes/no? as pointed out in other emails

Jason
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