Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:50:12 +0700 Stephan Knauss wrote: > Hello Robin, > > thanks for referring to the previous discussion. Seems I had missed > that. > > As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how > about making it easier for the data

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Marc Gemis
In Belgium banks are closed on public holidays, even some special ones like July 11 (only Flemish part). Bakeries on the other side are typically open on Sundays and public holidays. Even when the public holiday falls on their usual closing day. Butchers are closed on Sundays and PHs, but

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello Robin, thanks for referring to the previous discussion. Seems I had missed that. As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how about making it easier for the data consumers? We still face the problem that a lot of opening hours are incompletely specified. So

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 20.11.2015 um 12:46 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny : > > Note that complaints like this should be emitted only for objects in > some countries (like Germany), not worldwide. why? If it's a public holiday and no rule is specified, the resulting answer

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Robin Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 20.11.2015 10:50, Stephan Knauss wrote: > As a "global" default won't work due to the arguments mentioned, how about making it easier for the data consumers? > > We still face the problem that a lot of opening hours are incompletely specified.

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 19.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Stephan Knauss : > > Wouldn't it be much more meaningful to assume a default of "PH off" and just > specify situations in which this is not the default? Likely the majority of > amenities with tagged opening hours

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 19.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Stephan Knauss : > > Out of 445 banks in Bavaria with opening hours 417 would be open on a public > holiday (which is certainly always wrong). banks are a particular amenity with typically very limited opening hours

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Please read the discussion from May this year why several people thought it is a bad idea: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging/24247 regards m On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > Hi, > > the wiki page describes that "PH

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-19 Thread Robin Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 19.11.2015 13:01, Stephan Knauss wrote: > Hi, > > the wiki page describes that "PH off" is required in case something is > closed on a public holiday. > > This page confirms it: > http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/?setLng=de a