Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-22 14:00 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: +1 but please copy and archive the proposal +1, rather than (User moved page Proposed features/Smoking to Tag:smoking) (undo) the Tag definition page should be a new page, referring the proposal page (e.g. in the see also section, or

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote: I object. The feature page should document actual usage, and actual usage differs from proposed usage. smoking=outside is the second most common value and 15x more abundant than the proposed smoking:outside=yes. If

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 21.03.2015 01:54, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I object. The feature page should document actual usage, and actual usage differs from proposed usage.

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:smoking http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:smoking ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread fly
Am 21.03.2015 um 18:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net: I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. +1 +1 but please copy and archive the proposal fly

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Moved http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:smoking Left for now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area There is some divergence between the translations. Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area appeared in a unilateral edit on 14 May 2014 by user ArPi with comment create microwiki:

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:00 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: +1 but please copy and archive the proposal I'm pretty sure I screwed up the archive process, despite the template {{Archived proposal}}. Sorry. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Heh. Few things that look easy really are. I'll additionally propose to fold: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_areaaction=history Into smoking=yes ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bryce, Am 2015-03-21 um 01:54 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-03-21 um 02:29 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. - The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar regional default value. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net: I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. +1 cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I propose adding a small note to specifically cover designated smoking areas on closed ways: smoking=designated area=yes As the remaining smokers must find and congregate in those :-). And removing the section on default relations, as it's not actually used (and as noted problematic): //

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. - The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar regional default value. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires Eventually the tools will catch up :-) But that case is

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or county was non-smoking in certain types of establishments by default, in addition to tagging each one as smoking=no. I agree. Since OSM is a

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 17:54 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or county was