Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-04-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1 Apr 2017, at 00:19, Greg Troxel wrote: > > So I think we probably need a new relation member in addition to > admin_centre which is just "centre", meaning a node which is the > human-geography center of the administrative unit. For reference, I have recently written

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Kevin Kenny writes: > I tag boundaries when there are boundaries. In many places in suburban > New York, the hamlets (not self-governing in any way) have well known > boundaries, and the locals can tell you with some consistency who does > and does not live in the named community. That sounds f

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-28 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > This is definitely messy. Legally, in Massachusetts we have cities and > towns, both admin_level=8; they are the same thing, but (slightly > oversimplifying in a way that doesn't matter for this dicussion) > governed by city council vs town me

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-28 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > 2017-03-27 16:38 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kenny : > >> But now I see that the places - for example, Fort Montgomery, NY >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/175462 - no longer have their names >> rendered on the map. Are municipalities a special case, where the point tag

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-27 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > Two issues: > > 1) Recommended OSM tagging for place=* on smaller settlements is on the > wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Populated_ > settlements.2C_urban_and_rural You can see it's based mainly on > population and is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-27 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Two issues: 1) Recommended OSM tagging for place=* on smaller settlements is on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Populated_settlements.2C_urban_and_rural You can see it's based mainly on population and is not directly correlated to the form of government. Seems like admin_lev

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-27 18:33 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kenny : > Local convention in New York is to follow the legal definitions. Fort > Montgomery is legally a hamlet. New York has a few 'hamlets' that are > actually small cities. (Levittown, population about 52,000, is the largest > of these.) I understand that l

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-27 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > As a side note, your example Fort Montgomery, NY, to me doesn't look like > a hamlet, there's an elementary school, shops, a fire department, gas > station, hotel, cafe, sports grounds, and a significant amoun

Re: [Tagging] Tagging town/village/hamlet - am I misunderstanding something?

2017-03-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-27 16:38 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kenny : > But now I see that the places - for example, Fort Montgomery, NY > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/175462 - no longer have their names > rendered on the map. Are municipalities a special case, where the point tag > has to be retained to represent th