Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
> "Own front door" to the street, or onto the corridor ie one front door
servicing multiple "units"?

Own front door to your unit, I think.

> Isn't this tag doing the same as rooms: under the hotel tag?

Yes.

Actually https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dapartment
recommends "number_of_apartments=* the number of holiday apartments in the
building" which also is the same thing as building:flats.

Same concept for student accommodation/dormitories
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Student_accommodation_building


On 6 August 2018 at 08:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:

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>
>
> On 5 August 2018 at 19:22, Andrew Harvey  wrote:
>
>> Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit
>> all being interchangeable, I see the building:flats tag as the number of
>> self-contained residential units (where a unit has it's own front door,
>> kitchen, toilet (room) and bathroom).
>>
>
> "Own front door" to the street, or onto the corridor ie one front door
> servicing multiple "units"?
>
> Isn't this tag doing the same as rooms: under the hotel tag?
>
>
>> I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on a house, according to the wiki
>> house is already "A single dwelling unit usually inhabited by one family."
>>
>
> I agree it shouldn't be on "normal" houses, but what about granny flats?
> (which I admit would be almost impossible to map from the street, or an
> aerial view) [Translation in case it's only an Australian term? A granny
> flat is a self-contained flat, sometimes inside the house, sometimes as a
> separate, small, free-standing building in the backyard where "Grandma"
> lives]
>
>
>  Thanks
>
> Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 5 August 2018 at 19:22, Andrew Harvey  wrote:

> Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit
> all being interchangeable, I see the building:flats tag as the number of
> self-contained residential units (where a unit has it's own front door,
> kitchen, toilet (room) and bathroom).
>

"Own front door" to the street, or onto the corridor ie one front door
servicing multiple "units"?

Isn't this tag doing the same as rooms: under the hotel tag?


> I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on a house, according to the wiki
> house is already "A single dwelling unit usually inhabited by one family."
>

I agree it shouldn't be on "normal" houses, but what about granny flats?
(which I admit would be almost impossible to map from the street, or an
aerial view) [Translation in case it's only an Australian term? A granny
flat is a self-contained flat, sometimes inside the house, sometimes as a
separate, small, free-standing building in the backyard where "Grandma"
lives]


 Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 11:22, Andrew Harvey a écrit :
> I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on a house, according to the wiki 
> house is already "A single dwelling unit usually inhabited by one family."

"usually" as you said. somes houses host 2 units.
it's again the issue with missing "default values"
If you don't add it, you never known if it's the default value
or a never-survey tag.
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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 5. Aug 2018, at 11:22, Andrew Harvey  wrote:
> 
> Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit all 
> being interchangeable,



maybe flat and apartment are interchangeable (could you call a 2-level 
apartment a “flat”?) but unit is definitely more generic and while it contains 
apartment and flat, it can also mean different things (e.g. a detached home / 
chalet).



> 
> I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on a house, according to the wiki house 
> is already "A single dwelling unit usually inhabited by one family."


so it would not harm, it would just be redundant (I also would not recommend to 
add it)

Cheers,
Martin 
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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
Terminology does seem to vary around the world with apartment, flat, unit
all being interchangeable, I see the building:flats tag as the number of
self-contained residential units (where a unit has it's own front door,
kitchen, toilet (room) and bathroom).

I wouldn't recommend building:flats=1 on a house, according to the wiki
house is already "A single dwelling unit usually inhabited by one family."

On 5 August 2018 at 18:43, marc marc  wrote:

> Le 05. 08. 18 à 01:39, Warin a écrit :
> > On 05/08/18 08:59, marc marc wrote:
> >> Le 05. 08. 18 à 00:47, Andrew Harvey a écrit :
> >>> What's the process to change the Status from "In use" to "Approved"?
> >> write a propal, request for comment, call for voting
> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process
> >>
> >> it would be interesting to see how much to see the tag was used
> >> exept by the 2 imports having used it
> >> ___
> >
> > And the description?   documented on the wiki as "number of residential
> > units (flats,
> > apartments) in an apartment building, residential building, house,
> > detached house or similar building".
> >
> > Sounds like any kind of building .. that has a number (1?) of
> > residential "units".
> >
> > Could be anything residential - a single family home with that
> > description qualifies.
>
> Sorry I didn't understand what you mean
> of course single family hone qualifie for a (a little useless in this
> case) building:flats=1
> but what's the issue with it ?
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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-05 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 01:39, Warin a écrit :
> On 05/08/18 08:59, marc marc wrote:
>> Le 05. 08. 18 à 00:47, Andrew Harvey a écrit :
>>> What's the process to change the Status from "In use" to "Approved"?
>> write a propal, request for comment, call for voting
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process
>>
>> it would be interesting to see how much to see the tag was used
>> exept by the 2 imports having used it
>> ___
> 
> And the description?   documented on the wiki as "number of residential 
> units (flats,
> apartments) in an apartment building, residential building, house,
> detached house or similar building".
> 
> Sounds like any kind of building .. that has a number (1?) of 
> residential "units".
> 
> Could be anything residential - a single family home with that 
> description qualifies.

Sorry I didn't understand what you mean
of course single family hone qualifie for a (a little useless in this 
case) building:flats=1
but what's the issue with it ?
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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-04 Thread Warin

On 05/08/18 08:59, marc marc wrote:

Le 05. 08. 18 à 00:47, Andrew Harvey a écrit :

What's the process to change the Status from "In use" to "Approved"?

write a propal, request for comment, call for voting
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process

it would be interesting to see how much to see the tag was used
exept by the 2 imports having used it
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And the description?   documented on the wiki as "number of residential units 
(flats,
apartments) in an apartment building, residential building, house,
detached house or similar building".

Sounds like any kind of building .. that has a number (1?) of residential 
"units".

Could be anything residential - a single family home with that description 
qualifies.

And changing the description .. well you'd have to see if the past tagged 
object meet the new description.

Good Luck. Personally I'd not use that tag, does not define it self well enough.



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Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-04 Thread marc marc
Le 05. 08. 18 à 00:47, Andrew Harvey a écrit :
> What's the process to change the Status from "In use" to "Approved"?

write a propal, request for comment, call for voting
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process

it would be interesting to see how much to see the tag was used
exept by the 2 imports having used it
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