Re: Tag List
Just to be clear, I was responding to a user with an interest in convering the demo example in the Webservices tutorial into JSLT. A very specific and small application. We're on the Taglibs listserv. I saw several people tell him to use heavier frameworks external to this project. I just wanted to provide him with answer he asked for and could "easily do" in one JSP page with JSTL. *** That said, I agree with you on many points. I have no problem with MVC itself, I'll look over maverick more to see if I feel the same way about it that I do about Struts. I primarily struggle with the whole issue of having "too much configuration" mapping going on. 1.) I have this great Tomcat JSP Servlet Container that works quite elegantly. Like an http server, you know what url's are going to lead to your JSP's simply by thier location on the filesystem. Quite nice, easy to use. You've got the Context,Session,Request,Response objects to store things in when you need to. Its easy to get used to. And you got custom tags to push your model back behind the presentation. 2.) Then you have frameworks like struts that introduce another "level" of configuration into the picture. You end up with web.xml and struts config.xml files in your web application. You end up tracing through them trying to setup all this stuff. What if you want to use Cocoon too, now you've got a whole other config to deal with on top of your current config. ouch... A whole other realm of complexity. This is all too much for a small application. Schnitzer, Jeff wrote: Aside from that, the main problem with pages that submit back to themselves is that they confuse the hell out of designers. My designers would be bewildered by all that business logic, whether it be in tags or scriptlets. Granted that is a "pro" for the use of a framework that breaks the presentation off of the model. I would never suggest that is not a benifit when you have designers to contend with. Or larger applications to work with. ...at which point what you have is a lightweight MVC framework. In fact, this is pretty much exactly what Maverick does. It's what Struts does too, except that Struts does it with 100 times more code... Yes, and mine does it simply by using a JSP as Controller instead of a bunch of servlets and a config file. A simple solution for his request. Any webapp of a more than trivial nature ends up with a significant amount of "framework"; it's just a question of whether you use existing software or craft your own. That said, I believe frameworks should be minimalist, modular, and focused on a narrow goal - which is why my fellow developers and I gave up on Struts, WebWork, etc and wrote Maverick. True... Cheers :-) Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tag List
> From: Mark R. Diggory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Is this kinda what you mean? Are you trying to add the > search/edit/remove/add functionality to the jsp page? This could easily > be captured with forms which submit back to the jsp plus a choose block > to designate which operation is being performed. I bet this'll really > irk those Struts/Maveric MVC folks out there with its use of the JSP > page as both the Controller and View. But it is relatively easy to > accomplish using JSTL without such "heavy" MVC frameworks. > > Here is the example: > > [...] If you plan on using JSTL as a programming language, you're going to run out of rope rather quickly. Yeah, the basic constructs are there - assignment, iteration, conditionals - but Java it is not. What about file access, or image manipulation, or remote procedure calls, or any of the 50 million other things people do in their business logic? After you write custom tags for all of that what you end up with is an ugly, untyped, interpreted programming language. IMHO, in any nontrivial web application, JSTL is best treated as a templating language. Aside from that, the main problem with pages that submit back to themselves is that they confuse the hell out of designers. My designers would be bewildered by all that business logic, whether it be in tags or scriptlets. > If you want to encapsulate the functions for adding/removing/editing > the content and not have them in this "View/Controller", you could > include them from separate JSP's or Servlets. or likewise submit the > forms directly to those JSP's or Servlets and then redirect back to > this jsp once the work was done. ...at which point what you have is a lightweight MVC framework. In fact, this is pretty much exactly what Maverick does. It's what Struts does too, except that Struts does it with 100 times more code... > It stays pretty independent and light without too much dependency on > any particular framework other than the JSP/JSTL tags. Which results in > less research and development effort to accomplish the same task. All > you need to know is JSP/JSTL. Any webapp of a more than trivial nature ends up with a significant amount of "framework"; it's just a question of whether you use existing software or craft your own. That said, I believe frameworks should be minimalist, modular, and focused on a narrow goal - which is why my fellow developers and I gave up on Struts, WebWork, etc and wrote Maverick. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Maverick MVC Framework: http://mav.sourceforge.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tag List
Just as interesting historical background...
The terms "model 1" and "model 2" actually come from an old version of the
JSP specification that describes two models of web-application
development: the first model ("model 1") sends requests directly to JSP
pages, whereas the second ("model 2") sends requests to servlets, which
forward to JSP pages as necessary.
Model-View-Controller (MVC) is a design pattern that a "model 2" web
application will often resemble.
Shawn
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Schnitzer, Jeff wrote:
> So far the best explanation I have found of "MVC" aka "Model-2" is on
> Sun's site:
>
> http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/JSPIntro/contents
> .html#JSPIntro4
>
> Sun calls the pattern "Model-2", but there is enough similarity to the
> Smalltalk pattern that the term "MVC" has been (arguably
> mis-)appropriated.
>
> Jeff Schnitzer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The Maverick MVC Framework: http://mav.sourceforge.net
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:43 AM
> > To: Tag Libraries Users List
> > Subject: Re: Tag List
> >
> > Thanks I will look at Maverick. Why is Maverick and Struts considerd
> MVC,
> > when the idea of JSP is part of MVC?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:19 PM
> > Subject: RE: Tag List
> >
> >
> > Yes, if you're using JSTL then you will be a whole lot better off with
> > an "MVC" framework like Struts or Maverick. I recommend Maverick -
> it's
> > considerably simpler than Struts, yet offers more features. Also,
> > unlike most other similar frameworks (Struts, WebWork, etc), Maverick
> > never started out with a now-crufty set of specialized set of JSP tags
> -
> > JSTL works great.
> >
> > The core distribution includes a sample application that uses JSTL.
> >
> > http://mav.sourceforge.net
> >
> > Jeff Schnitzer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (yes, I'm the lead developer of Maverick)
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:23 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Tag List
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks...how about an entry form?
> > > >
> > > > Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better?
> > > >
> > > > I will get the book though
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Tag List
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which
> you
> > > have
> > > > > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with
> a
> > > text
> > > > box
> > > > > titled search
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your
> > query.
> > > For
> > > > > example:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a
> tag.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn
> Bayern's
> > > book
> > > > > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail,
> plus
> > > > > everything else.
> > > > >
> > > >
RE: Tag List
So far the best explanation I have found of "MVC" aka "Model-2" is on Sun's site: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/JSPIntro/contents .html#JSPIntro4 Sun calls the pattern "Model-2", but there is enough similarity to the Smalltalk pattern that the term "MVC" has been (arguably mis-)appropriated. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Maverick MVC Framework: http://mav.sourceforge.net > -Original Message- > From: Scott Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:43 AM > To: Tag Libraries Users List > Subject: Re: Tag List > > Thanks I will look at Maverick. Why is Maverick and Struts considerd MVC, > when the idea of JSP is part of MVC? > > Scott > > > - Original Message - > From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:19 PM > Subject: RE: Tag List > > > Yes, if you're using JSTL then you will be a whole lot better off with > an "MVC" framework like Struts or Maverick. I recommend Maverick - it's > considerably simpler than Struts, yet offers more features. Also, > unlike most other similar frameworks (Struts, WebWork, etc), Maverick > never started out with a now-crufty set of specialized set of JSP tags - > JSTL works great. > > The core distribution includes a sample application that uses JSTL. > > http://mav.sourceforge.net > > Jeff Schnitzer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (yes, I'm the lead developer of Maverick) > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:23 AM > > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > > > > Thanks...how about an entry form? > > > > > > Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better? > > > > > > I will get the book though > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > > > > > > > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you > > have > > > > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a > > text > > > box > > > > titled search > > > > > > > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your > query. > > For > > > > example: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's > > book > > > > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > > > > everything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > > > > Subject: Tag List > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop > > Cart > > > web > > > > > application from Sun One. > > > > > > > > > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form > (and > > entry > > > > > form) rather than simply list everything. > > > > > > > > > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > > > > > > > > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.s
Re: Tag List
No, I just wrote this as a breif example into the email, Some sections were not "finished" (ie have ...) I was primarily trying to show a rough layout of a jsp that could handle the different conditions that might occur in your case example. You'd have to flesh out the sql queries and updates. Therer are some sql:update tags that are left open in the choose block, those are probibly causing the nesting error. Cheers, Mark Scott Taylor wrote: Mark Am I able to simply overwrite my existing JSP with what you have below? Because I tried to compile it in Netbeans and got: ProductList.jsp [-1:-1] End of content reached while more parsing required: tag nesting error? Errors compiling ProductList. Scott - Original Message - From: "Mark R. Diggory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Tag List Scott, Is this kinda what you mean? Are you trying to add the search/edit/remove/add functionality to the jsp page? This could easily be captured with forms which submit back to the jsp plus a choose block to designate which operation is being performed. I bet this'll really irk those Struts/Maveric MVC folks out there with its use of the JSP page as both the Controller and View. But it is relatively easy to accomplish using JSTL without such "heavy" MVC frameworks. Here is the example: <%@page contentType="text/html"%> <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> <%-- conditional logic and sql manipulation --%> ... sql tags to support the add request ... sql tags to support the remove request ... sql tags to support the edit request <%-- query to load the html page contents --%> <%-- EXPAND YOUR QUERY WITH SEARCH TERMS HERE --%> <%-- use some conditional logic on the request parameters to deside how the query should be augmented --%> SELECT * FROM CD <%-- page with forms to add/edit/remove the contents --%> CD Catalog List CD Catalog List ID CD Title Artist Country Price Command Add new entry If you want to encapsulate the functions for adding/removing/editing the content and not have them in this "View/Controller", you could include them from separate JSP's or Servlets. or likewise submit the forms directly to those JSP's or Servlets and then redirect back to this jsp once the work was done. It stays pretty independent and light without too much dependency on any particular framework other than the JSP/JSTL tags. Which results in less research and development effort to accomplish the same task. All you need to know is JSP/JSTL. -Mark Eddie Barna wrote: You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text box titled search Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. For example: SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? For every condition in your query you must add a tag. Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus everything else. - Original Message - From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: Tag List I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop Cart web application from Sun One. For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and entry form) rather than simply list everything. Here is what the code looks like so far: <%@page contentType="text/html"%> CD Catalog List <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> CD Catalog List SELECT * FROM CD ID CD Title Artist Country Price "> "> "> Regards Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Tag List
Mark Am I able to simply overwrite my existing JSP with what you have below? Because I tried to compile it in Netbeans and got: ProductList.jsp [-1:-1] End of content reached while more parsing required: tag nesting error? Errors compiling ProductList. Scott - Original Message - From: "Mark R. Diggory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Tag List > Scott, > > Is this kinda what you mean? Are you trying to add the > search/edit/remove/add functionality to the jsp page? This could easily > be captured with forms which submit back to the jsp plus a choose block > to designate which operation is being performed. I bet this'll really > irk those Struts/Maveric MVC folks out there with its use of the JSP > page as both the Controller and View. But it is relatively easy to > accomplish using JSTL without such "heavy" MVC frameworks. > > Here is the example: > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" >user="scott" password="" /> > > <%-- conditional logic and sql manipulation --%> > > > ... sql tags to support the add request > > > ... sql tags to support the remove request > > > ... sql tags to support the edit request > > > > <%-- query to load the html page contents --%> > > > <%-- EXPAND YOUR QUERY WITH SEARCH TERMS HERE --%> > <%-- > use some conditional logic on the request > parameters to deside how the query should > be augmented > --%> > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > <%-- page with forms to add/edit/remove the contents --%> > > CD Catalog List > > CD Catalog List > > > > > > > > > > > > > ID > CD Title > Artist > Country > Price > Command > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add new entry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to encapsulate the functions for adding/removing/editing > the content and not have them in this "View/Controller", you could > include them from separate JSP's or Servlets. or likewise submit the > forms directly to those JSP's or Servlets and then redirect back to > this jsp once the work was done. > > > > It stays pretty independent and light without too much dependency on > any particular framework other than the JSP/JSTL tags. Which results in > less research and development effort to accomplish the same task. All > you need to know is JSP/JSTL. > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > Eddie Barna wrote: > > >You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have > >listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text box > >titled search > > > >Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > > > >> > >>SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. For > >example: > > > > > > > >> > >>SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > >For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > > >Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book > >titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > >everything else. > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > >Subject: Tag List > > > > > > > > > >>I am
Re: Tag List
Scott, Is this kinda what you mean? Are you trying to add the search/edit/remove/add functionality to the jsp page? This could easily be captured with forms which submit back to the jsp plus a choose block to designate which operation is being performed. I bet this'll really irk those Struts/Maveric MVC folks out there with its use of the JSP page as both the Controller and View. But it is relatively easy to accomplish using JSTL without such "heavy" MVC frameworks. Here is the example: <%@page contentType="text/html"%> <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" driver="org.postgresql.Driver" user="scott" password="" /> <%-- conditional logic and sql manipulation --%> ... sql tags to support the add request ... sql tags to support the remove request ... sql tags to support the edit request <%-- query to load the html page contents --%> <%-- EXPAND YOUR QUERY WITH SEARCH TERMS HERE --%> <%-- use some conditional logic on the request parameters to deside how the query should be augmented --%> SELECT * FROM CD <%-- page with forms to add/edit/remove the contents --%> CD Catalog List CD Catalog List ID CD Title Artist Country Price Command Add new entry If you want to encapsulate the functions for adding/removing/editing the content and not have them in this "View/Controller", you could include them from separate JSP's or Servlets. or likewise submit the forms directly to those JSP's or Servlets and then redirect back to this jsp once the work was done. It stays pretty independent and light without too much dependency on any particular framework other than the JSP/JSTL tags. Which results in less research and development effort to accomplish the same task. All you need to know is JSP/JSTL. -Mark Eddie Barna wrote: You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text box titled search Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. For example: SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? For every condition in your query you must add a tag. Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus everything else. - Original Message - From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: Tag List I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop Cart web application from Sun One. For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and entry form) rather than simply list everything. Here is what the code looks like so far: <%@page contentType="text/html"%> CD Catalog List <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> CD Catalog List url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" driver="org.postgresql.Driver" user="scott" password="" /> SELECT * FROM CD ID CD Title Artist Country Price "> "> "> Regards Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks I will look at Maverick. Why is Maverick and Struts considerd MVC, when the idea of JSP is part of MVC? Scott - Original Message - From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: RE: Tag List Yes, if you're using JSTL then you will be a whole lot better off with an "MVC" framework like Struts or Maverick. I recommend Maverick - it's considerably simpler than Struts, yet offers more features. Also, unlike most other similar frameworks (Struts, WebWork, etc), Maverick never started out with a now-crufty set of specialized set of JSP tags - JSTL works great. The core distribution includes a sample application that uses JSTL. http://mav.sourceforge.net Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, I'm the lead developer of Maverick) > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > Thanks...how about an entry form? > > > > Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better? > > > > I will get the book though > > > > Thanks > > > > Scott > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM > > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > > > > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you > have > > > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a > text > > box > > > titled search > > > > > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > > > > > > > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. > For > > > example: > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > > > > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's > book > > > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > > > everything else. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > > > Subject: Tag List > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop > Cart > > web > > > > application from Sun One. > > > > > > > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and > entry > > > > form) rather than simply list everything. > > > > > > > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > > > > > > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > > > >url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" > > > >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" > > > >user="scott" password="" /> > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ID > > > > CD Title > > > > Artist > > > > Country > > > > Price > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "> > > > > "> > > > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: taglibs-user- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes I want to enter into the database using a form Scott - Original Message - From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Tag List > Are you trying to do an entry form that stores the data in the db? Please > clarify. > > As for Struts: I am not familiar with those. I am actually not that > familiar with JSP itself. That is why i decided to start with JSTL (it > makes things easier). Sorry. > > Eddie B. > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > Thanks...how about an entry form? > > > > Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better? > > > > I will get the book though > > > > Thanks > > > > Scott > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM > > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > > > > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have > > > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text > > box > > > titled search > > > > > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > > > > > > > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. > For > > > example: > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > > > > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book > > > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > > > everything else. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > > > Subject: Tag List > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop Cart > > web > > > > application from Sun One. > > > > > > > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and > entry > > > > form) rather than simply list everything. > > > > > > > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > > > > > > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > > > >url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" > > > >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" > > > >user="scott" password="" /> > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ID > > > > CD Title > > > > Artist > > > > Country > > > > Price > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "> > > > > "> > > > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, if you're using JSTL then you will be a whole lot better off with an "MVC" framework like Struts or Maverick. I recommend Maverick - it's considerably simpler than Struts, yet offers more features. Also, unlike most other similar frameworks (Struts, WebWork, etc), Maverick never started out with a now-crufty set of specialized set of JSP tags - JSTL works great. The core distribution includes a sample application that uses JSTL. http://mav.sourceforge.net Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, I'm the lead developer of Maverick) > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > Thanks...how about an entry form? > > > > Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better? > > > > I will get the book though > > > > Thanks > > > > Scott > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM > > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > > > > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you > have > > > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a > text > > box > > > titled search > > > > > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > > > > > > > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. > For > > > example: > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > > > > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's > book > > > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > > > everything else. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > > > Subject: Tag List > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop > Cart > > web > > > > application from Sun One. > > > > > > > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and > entry > > > > form) rather than simply list everything. > > > > > > > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > > > > > > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > > > > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > > > >url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" > > > >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" > > > >user="scott" password="" /> > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ID > > > > CD Title > > > > Artist > > > > Country > > > > Price > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "> > > > > "> > > > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: taglibs-user- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are you trying to do an entry form that stores the data in the db? Please clarify. As for Struts: I am not familiar with those. I am actually not that familiar with JSP itself. That is why i decided to start with JSTL (it makes things easier). Sorry. Eddie B. - Original Message - From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Tag List > Thanks...how about an entry form? > > Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better? > > I will get the book though > > Thanks > > Scott > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: Tag List > > > > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have > > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text > box > > titled search > > > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > > > > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. For > > example: > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > > > > > > > > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book > > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > > everything else. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > > Subject: Tag List > > > > > > > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop Cart > web > > > application from Sun One. > > > > > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and entry > > > form) rather than simply list everything. > > > > > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > > > > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > > > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > > > > > CD Catalog List > > > > >url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" > > >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" > > >user="scott" password="" /> > > > > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ID > > > CD Title > > > Artist > > > Country > > > Price > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "> > > > "> > > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks...how about an entry form? Also, if I want to do JSP's easier are Struts better? I will get the book though Thanks Scott - Original Message - From: "Eddie Barna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Tag List > You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have > listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text box > titled search > > Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > > > > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. For > example: > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > > > > > > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. > > Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book > titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus > everything else. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM > Subject: Tag List > > > > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop Cart web > > application from Sun One. > > > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and entry > > form) rather than simply list everything. > > > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > > > CD Catalog List > > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > > > CD Catalog List > > >url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" > >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" > >user="scott" password="" /> > > > > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > > > > > > ID > > CD Title > > Artist > > Country > > Price > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "> > > "> > > "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Scott > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You can pass the value from your search form to the page which you have listed in your email. For example: You have a search form with a text box titled search Here's what the page that queries the db would look like now > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? > You can also expand on this by using the OR statement in your query. For example: > > SELECT * FROM CD WHERE CDTITLE = ? OR ARTIST = ? > For every condition in your query you must add a tag. Hope this helps. I really do recomend that you get Shawn Bayern's book titled JSTL in Action. It explains all this in great detail, plus everything else. - Original Message - From: "Scott Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: Tag List > I am trying to find a list of tags to help me modify the CD Shop Cart web > application from Sun One. > > For example, how do I insert tags that provide a search form (and entry > form) rather than simply list everything. > > Here is what the code looks like so far: > > <%@page contentType="text/html"%> > > CD Catalog List > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> > <%@ taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %> > > CD Catalog List > url="jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/recruitment" >driver="org.postgresql.Driver" >user="scott" password="" /> > > > SELECT * FROM CD > > > > > ID > CD Title > Artist > Country > Price > > > > > > > > > > > > "> > "> > "> > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > Scott > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
