Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-26 Thread intrigeri
Hi, Michael English: >> Still, this doesn't answer my question of why the setting called >> 'privacy' "helps to reduce blockchain UTXO". I would love to >> understand, if someone is kind enough to explain it to me. > I will try to explain to you what I think Electrum meant by reducing UTXO > blo

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-26 Thread intrigeri
anonym: > I just spent an hour reading: […] Thanks for diving into it. > First, let me say that I absolutely do not want this feature documented for > end-users. I'm not sure how this could be explained in less a way so a user > could > make an informed decision without using thousands of words

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-25 Thread Michael English
I just spent an hour reading: * https://medium.com/@lopp/the-challenges-of-optimizing-unspent-output-selection-a3e5d05d13ef#.63vst18ff * https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/1203 First, let me say that I absolutely do not want this feature documented for end-users. I'm not sure how this

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-25 Thread anonym
Michael English: > Anonym, > >> Of course, mine too (and intrigeri's, I'm sure :)). Sorry for >> frustrating you like this about something that is obvious for you, >> but it indeed gets hard for us when we need to consider things we >> have little or no clue about. And I'm sure you understand we c

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-25 Thread Michael English
Anonym, Of course, mine too (and intrigeri's, I'm sure :)). Sorry for frustrating you like this about something that is obvious for you, but it indeed gets hard for us when we need to consider things we have little or no clue about. And I'm sure you understand we cannot just blindly trust and

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-25 Thread anonym
Michael English: > Anonym, > > Please Cc me with any replies. For some reason, I am unable to subscribe to > the list. Got it! > Anonym: >> Note that I haven't chimed in with my opinion yet. :) I think intrigeri >> is just careful: privacy features are routinely exaggerated in their >> efficacy

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-25 Thread Michael English
Anonym, Please Cc me with any replies. For some reason, I am unable to subscribe to the list. Anonym: > Note that I haven't chimed in with my opinion yet. :) I think intrigeri > is just careful: privacy features are routinely exaggerated in their > efficacy and can easily have many unexpected

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-25 Thread anonym
Michael English: >> Anyway: I personally don't feel responsible for maintaining the >> Electrum integration in Tails, would rather not to become more >> involved into it, and will therefore let its maintainer (i.e. anonym) >> make the call. But I'm genuinely curious about the unspent outputs >> opt

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread Michael English
Intrigeri, Hi, s7r: intrigeri wrote: The text was copied from Electrum man page. Thank you! UTXO's are basically the coins you can spend. The spendable coins are in UTXO's, not in addresses. Addresses are just a smart crypto way to let the world know in advance who has the right to spend a

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread intrigeri
Hi, s7r: > intrigeri wrote: > The text was copied from Electrum man page. Thank you! > UTXO's are basically the coins you can spend. The spendable coins are in > UTXO's, not in addresses. Addresses are just a smart crypto way to let > the world know in advance who has the right to spend a given

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread Michael English
Intrigeri, Hi Michael, Michael English: It also helps to reduce blockchain UTXO (unspent transaction outputs) bloat, This makes me curious. How does this help with that property, exactly? My intuition tells me that by restricting the set of coins that can be spent to one single address, on th

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread Michael English
S7r, Hello intrigeri, Michael, intrigeri wrote: Hi Michael, Michael English: It also helps to reduce blockchain UTXO (unspent transaction outputs) bloat, This makes me curious. How does this help with that property, exactly? My intuition tells me that by restricting the set of coins that can

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread s7r
Hello intrigeri, Michael, intrigeri wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Michael English: >> It also helps to reduce blockchain UTXO (unspent transaction >> outputs) bloat, > > This makes me curious. How does this help with that property, exactly? > My intuition tells me that by restricting the set of coins

Re: [Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread intrigeri
Hi Michael, Michael English: > It also helps to reduce blockchain UTXO (unspent transaction > outputs) bloat, This makes me curious. How does this help with that property, exactly? My intuition tells me that by restricting the set of coins that can be spent to one single address, on the contrary,

[Tails-dev] Set coin selection to "privacy" by default in Electrum

2017-01-24 Thread Michael English
Hi, I recommend the following change in the file ~/.electrum/config { "coin_chooser": "Privacy", "proxy": "socks5:localhost:9050" } "Attempts to better preserve user privacy. First, if any coin is spent from a user address, all coins are. Compared to spending from other addresses to