Re: [Tails-dev] [orca-list] Tails installation accessibility

[Cory Samaha]

Hi,
Yes, the setup of the persistent storage partition is exactly what I am 
referring to. To clarify, this is a known accessibility bug, and nothing to do 
with qt support, correct? I need to look more closely at the bug you linked to. 
Thank you for directing this to the correct people.
Regards,
Cory

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> On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Cyril Brulebois  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Alex ARNAUD  (2019-02-15):
>> Oh, it looks like it's not related to Debian, it's related to the Tail
>> installer.
>> 
>> I'm not familiar with the Tails installer. As I know the live image of
>> Debian is not accessible and the installer inside the Debian live
>> image is not accessible.
> 
> For context, there are two very different things:
> - the tails-installer package, which was useful to create a Tails
>   system; this became obsolete with the Tails 3.12 release, which comes
>   under both an ISO form (as before) and an USB image that can be used
>   directly. More details on: https://tails.boum.org/news/version_3.12/
> - the persistence-setup component of the Tails system, which makes it
>   possible to enable a persistent partition.
> 
> I think what Cory is referring to is the latter, for which some tickets
> exist already; you can check the tickets linked from the generic Tails
> vs. accessibility ticket:
>  https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/issues/14522
> 
> If you're encountering issues that aren't documented in our tracker yet,
> feel free to open a new ticket with the details:
>  https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/projects/tails
> 
> I'm putting the tails-dev mailing list in copy so that I'm not the only
> one getting answers if there are any issues regarding filing a new
> ticket (please use reply-all).
> 
>>> Le 15/02/2019 à 14:20, Cory Samaha a écrit :
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> I assume you are on the Debian accessibility team?  My issue here is that I 
>>> am running Tails and am trying to create a persistent storage volume with 
>>> the included tool, but none of the controls appear to read.  And in order 
>>> to make changes to my .profile settings stick permanently I need persistent 
>>> storage.  So, it’s kind of a chicken and egg situation.  Have you dealt 
>>> with Tails before?  If so, is this in fact a QT based app?  I did check, 
>>> and qt-at-spi does seem to be installed by default, but there are just 
>>> certain apps where Orca isn’t reading.  Maybe it’s easy to blame it on QT, 
>>> but I actually am not exactly sure what the problem is.  Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cory
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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Re: [Tails-dev] [orca-list] Tails installation accessibility

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

Alex ARNAUD  (2019-02-15):
> Oh, it looks like it's not related to Debian, it's related to the Tail
> installer.
> 
> I'm not familiar with the Tails installer. As I know the live image of
> Debian is not accessible and the installer inside the Debian live
> image is not accessible.

For context, there are two very different things:
 - the tails-installer package, which was useful to create a Tails
   system; this became obsolete with the Tails 3.12 release, which comes
   under both an ISO form (as before) and an USB image that can be used
   directly. More details on: https://tails.boum.org/news/version_3.12/
 - the persistence-setup component of the Tails system, which makes it
   possible to enable a persistent partition.

I think what Cory is referring to is the latter, for which some tickets
exist already; you can check the tickets linked from the generic Tails
vs. accessibility ticket:
  https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/issues/14522

If you're encountering issues that aren't documented in our tracker yet,
feel free to open a new ticket with the details:
  https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/projects/tails

I'm putting the tails-dev mailing list in copy so that I'm not the only
one getting answers if there are any issues regarding filing a new
ticket (please use reply-all).

> Le 15/02/2019 à 14:20, Cory Samaha a écrit :
> > Hi Alex,
> > I assume you are on the Debian accessibility team?  My issue here is that I 
> > am running Tails and am trying to create a persistent storage volume with 
> > the included tool, but none of the controls appear to read.  And in order 
> > to make changes to my .profile settings stick permanently I need persistent 
> > storage.  So, it’s kind of a chicken and egg situation.  Have you dealt 
> > with Tails before?  If so, is this in fact a QT based app?  I did check, 
> > and qt-at-spi does seem to be installed by default, but there are just 
> > certain apps where Orca isn’t reading.  Maybe it’s easy to blame it on QT, 
> > but I actually am not exactly sure what the problem is.  Any thoughts?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Cory


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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