Re: [Tails-dev] NSA tails and closed code
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021, 16:42 syster via Tails-dev wrote: > What I always thought what would be nice: > > Having 2 versions of Tails. One pure and free, and one with proprietary > code that is needed to run some hardware. > > If one has a wifi adapter that runs on free software, most if not all of > the proprietary code that is included in Tails is of no use for that > person, at least that's how I understand it. Such an wifi adapter can be > be bought for the cost of an USB stick. > That has the downside of doubling development/testing efforts, and confusion for users. > ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] NSA tails and closed code
What I always thought what would be nice: Having 2 versions of Tails. One pure and free, and one with proprietary code that is needed to run some hardware. If one has a wifi adapter that runs on free software, most if not all of the proprietary code that is included in Tails is of no use for that person, at least that's how I understand it. Such an wifi adapter can be be bought for the cost of an USB stick. On 6/14/21 10:01 AM, boyska wrote: Georg Koppen: anonym: Romper Stomper via Tails-dev: and why are there closed codes in “tails”? I guess you are referring to the firmwares required for hardware support? If we didn't ship these firmwares Tails would not run on most hardware. It's a necessary trade-off. Is there a list of those firmwares somewhere (I couldn't find anything on the Tails website about that topic after searching a bit) or is it "just" a Debian package taken 1:1 from upstream? https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/blob/stable/config/chroot_local-packageslists/tails-common.list#L247 this is the list of debian packages Tails installs to have firmwares ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] NSA tails and closed code
Georg Koppen: anonym: Romper Stomper via Tails-dev: and why are there closed codes in “tails”? I guess you are referring to the firmwares required for hardware support? If we didn't ship these firmwares Tails would not run on most hardware. It's a necessary trade-off. Is there a list of those firmwares somewhere (I couldn't find anything on the Tails website about that topic after searching a bit) or is it "just" a Debian package taken 1:1 from upstream? https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/blob/stable/config/chroot_local-packageslists/tails-common.list#L247 this is the list of debian packages Tails installs to have firmwares -- boyska ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] NSA tails and closed code
anonym: > Romper Stomper via Tails-dev: >> Is it true that the “tails” ports are controlled by the NSA? > > I'm not sure what you mean with "ports". However, NSA doesn't control > anything related to Tails to our knowledge, and we do what we can to > defend against it, e.g.: https://tails.boum.org/news/reproducible_Tails/ > > and why are there closed codes in “tails”? > > I guess you are referring to the firmwares required for hardware > support? If we didn't ship these firmwares Tails would not run on most > hardware. It's a necessary trade-off. Is there a list of those firmwares somewhere (I couldn't find anything on the Tails website about that topic after searching a bit) or is it "just" a Debian package taken 1:1 from upstream? Georg OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] NSA tails and closed code
Romper Stomper via Tails-dev: Is it true that the “tails” ports are controlled by the NSA? I'm not sure what you mean with "ports". However, NSA doesn't control anything related to Tails to our knowledge, and we do what we can to defend against it, e.g.: https://tails.boum.org/news/reproducible_Tails/ and why are there closed codes in “tails”? I guess you are referring to the firmwares required for hardware support? If we didn't ship these firmwares Tails would not run on most hardware. It's a necessary trade-off. Cheers! ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] NSA tails and closed code
Hi! Is it true that the “tails” ports are controlled by the NSA? and why are there closed codes in “tails”? ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.