Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread ac via talk
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:09:41 -0400 Mike via talk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:49 AM, ac via talk wrote: > WordPerfect was so the best, (so was playing with lantastic and > > arcnet :) ), > > > Arcnet? Sheesh. Towards the end of Arcnet's tenure, we had become so > tired of the flakiness that

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Jul 28, 2016 6:29 PM, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" wrote: > > | From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" > > | - Original Message - From: "Russell Reiter" > > | > The hylafax site has a good list of Linux comparable modems. > | > > | > http://www.hylafax.org/site1/modems.html > | > > |

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Loui Chang via talk
On Thu 28 Jul 2016 13:51 -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > I would need two portable backup hard drives (one on-site and one > off-site). I estimate a cost of $375 for a SCSI controller card together > with a (used) VXA tape drive. Plus the cost of tape cartridges, of > course. So I'll

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" | - Original Message - From: "Russell Reiter" | > The hylafax site has a good list of Linux comparable modems. | > | > http://www.hylafax.org/site1/modems.html | > | | Brilliant !! | | >From what I see at the site, this product looks very promis

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Jul 28, 2016 1:51 PM, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" wrote: > > > Interesting. And encouraging. Maybe I can hold out a while longer, and keep using dial-up with the new Linux PC, postponing the extra expense of DSL versus dial-up. I pay today $15 / mo. (+taxes) for dial-up access. My ISP (Sta

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk
On 28/07/16 01:50 PM, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: Interesting. And encouraging. Maybe I can hold out a while longer, and keep using dial-up with the new Linux PC, postponing the extra expense of DSL versus dial-up. I pay today $15 / mo. (+taxes) for dial-up access. My ISP (Start.ca) wa

Re: [GTALUG] GTALUG - BUILDING DEBIAN 8 PC TO REPLACE WIN XP PC

2016-07-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 01:50:00PM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Mainly because I use dial-upon the Win XP system, and I don't want the > hassle of changing it to use DSL, before I get the new Linux PC. Also, > I'm curious to see if the experience with dial-up is better on Linux > t

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 01:49:29PM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > The first big porting task will be to convert my Outlook Express mail > folders (2.38 GB) to Thunderbird on Linux. And then start using the > Linux PC for my email. Why am I thinking: Setup an IMAP server, point outl

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 01:51:33PM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > "Easy, fast, reliable" sounds pretty tempting to me. > > Thanks to advice from GTALUG, I'm prettly close to abandoning my > nostalgic love for SCSI tape backup :) > > If I can be comfortable with portable hard drive

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Mike via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talkAlso FYI Tuesdays after 6pm is the open house. >> https://hacklab.to/ >> >> > I looked at the website -- amazing !! Reminds me of my 1960s "hippie > commune" days. Only Hacklab seems much more grown-up and productive of > real results,

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 01:44:23PM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > The beautiful Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) case I have specified, is > definitely brand name. It does look very nice. It violates just one of my case rules. It has a door in front of the optical drive. I don't

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Jul 28, 2016 1:48 PM, "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" wrote: > Just curious -- did you build those "couple of hundred builds" all for > personal use? No, probably the first 50 in the early 90's were all DOS & WIN 8088 - 80486 from obsoleted IBM business units. Pick and patch so to speak. Som

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Giles, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Giles Orr via talk" To: "GTALUG Talk" Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC; On 26 July 2016 at 21:27

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Russell, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Russell Reiter" To: "GTALUG Talk" ; "D. Hugh Redelmeier" Cc: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng." Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Hugh, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" To: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng." ; "GTALUG Talk" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC; |

Re: [GTALUG] GTALUG - BUILDING DEBIAN 8 PC TO REPLACE WIN XP PC

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Stan, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Stan Witkowski" To: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng." Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:02 AM Subject: GTALUG - BUILDING DEBIAN 8 PC TO REPLACE WIN XP PC I suggest: 2. Unless you

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Russell, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Russell Reiter" To: "GTALUG Talk" ; "Steve Petrie, P.Eng." Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC; On

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Lennart, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Lennart Sorensen via talk" To: "Loui Chang" Cc: "GTALUG Talk" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Lennart, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Lennart Sorensen" To: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng." ; "GTALUG Talk" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Hello Russell, Thanks for your response. My comments are inline below. Steve - Original Message - From: "Russell Reiter" To: "GTALUG Talk" ; "Steve Petrie, P.Eng." Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC; Sen

Re: [GTALUG] LinuxCon

2016-07-28 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 07/27/2016 06:11 PM, Marc Lijour via talk wrote: Who is coming to LinuxCon Toronto next month? Distance is not an excuse this time ;-) Distance is not an excuse but $1100 is valid. I just checked the website and the fee is only (um... only?) US$100 for a hall pass. -- Cheers! Kevin. ht

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Mike via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:49 AM, ac via talk wrote: WordPerfect was so the best, (so was playing with lantastic and > arcnet :) ), > > Arcnet? Sheesh. Towards the end of Arcnet's tenure, we had become so tired of the flakiness that we had soldered the twisted pair to all the network cards. If yo

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread ac via talk
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:17:28 -0400 Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > On 07/28/2016 08:15 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2016 11:20 PM, "William Park via talk" > > wrote: > > > I'll give opposite advice from the rest. Stay with Windows. > > > - Windows c

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 07/28/2016 08:15 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: On Jul 27, 2016 11:20 PM, "William Park via talk" > wrote: > > I'll give opposite advice from the rest. Stay with Windows. > - Windows comes free with all retail computers, fully configured. Windows does not c

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Ivan Avery Frey via talk wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016, 23:31 William Park via talk wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 12:08:56PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: >> > PS: A few years ago I noticed an interesting behaviour in Linux. When >> > rsyncing h

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Ivan Avery Frey via talk
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016, 23:31 William Park via talk wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 12:08:56PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > > PS: A few years ago I noticed an interesting behaviour in Linux. When > > rsyncing hundreds of GB from the eSata to the USB mounted drive I found > the > > file

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

2016-07-28 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Jul 27, 2016 11:20 PM, "William Park via talk" wrote: > > I'll give opposite advice from the rest. Stay with Windows. > - Windows comes free with all retail computers, fully configured. The only reason this is the case is that Foss became a threat to the profit model, otherwise it would b

Re: [GTALUG] LinuxCon

2016-07-28 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On 27 July 2016 at 22:38, Christopher Browne via talk wrote: > On 27 July 2016 at 20:46, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: >> >> The $1400.00 or so to register is a bit of an impediment. > > > Indeed! I know there are people that volunteered for talks on the basis > that speakers have fees waived. > >