Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2016-09-30 10:47 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > … Systemd wants to be everything to everybody. Well, it is called *system*d. init just starts things, systemd runs everything … --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
> > I wonder if that is because most of the code writers are not really human > communicators rather they are far better machine communicators? > What say you? We have to understand Linux userland is enormous now. The learning curve for network operator's, is larger than those who develop

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 09/30/2016 10:47 AM, o1bigtenor wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: snip Not sure why people have a hate on for

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:47 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: > > On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk >

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:52:59PM -0400, Peter King via talk wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > > So for me, bsd is only a necessary evil to be used if linux won't run > > on the hardware, and the last time I had to resort to netbsd to get a

Re: [GTALUG] OT - the heuristics of privacy

2016-09-30 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > Belated thanks for the link. I had thought after the Snowden video which > showed how to disable the mic on a common cell phone, there might be some > hope for project Ara. Alas not, it's been cancelled. > Another

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: snip > > Not sure why people have a hate on for systemd. > It is a pain to learn a new

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Greetings To GTALUG Talk, - Original Message - From: "Christopher Browne via talk" To: ; "Myles Braithwaite" ; "GTALUG Talk" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] curious...