Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:05 AM Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > On 1/28/21 7:18 PM, James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2021-01-28 5:45 p.m., David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > > A proposal for a community broadband, in Toronto! > > > Several years ago, Toronto Hydro had the same idea. I

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
I definitely agree: NB and Nova Scotis have done some work with fixed tariffs for access to public poles... this is a workaround to private duopolies. --dave On 2021-01-29 6:11 p.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: David Collier-Brown via talk | A proposal for a community

Re: [GTALUG] YAD-Zenity-GTK on Pi - assistance needed

2021-01-29 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 20:02, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: > > The original question was about a Pi 1 model b. > > > Exactly the same OS distro, though. I don't bother with the 64-bit things on Raspberry Pi, as the community support is with the 32-bit Raspberry Pi OS. --- Post to this mailing

Re: [GTALUG] YAD-Zenity-GTK on Pi - assistance needed

2021-01-29 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2021-01-29 7:48 p.m., Stewart Russell via talk wrote: Seems to be built with GTK support here (Raspberry Pi 4): The original question was about a Pi 1 model b. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens |

Re: [GTALUG] YAD-Zenity-GTK on Pi - assistance needed

2021-01-29 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 15:22, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > > What this suggests to me (I'm guessing here, hoping someone can help > me figure it out) is that YAD is compiled with GTK support on Debian > and Fedora, but some other graphical library on the Pi. Seems to be built with GTK support

Re: [GTALUG] YAD-Zenity-GTK on Pi - assistance needed

2021-01-29 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2021-01-29 3:21 p.m., Giles Orr via talk wrote: However - this behaviour isn't replicated on the Pi. It's an old(ish) Debian stretch install on an old Pi B (not Pi 2 B, just "Pi B"). I'm pretty sure that ~/.configs/gtk-3.0/settings.ini is the right file, because when I mis-configured it,

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: David Collier-Brown via talk | A proposal for a community broadband, in Toronto! I actually think that there is a better approach. The free market is generally a good way to provide services but there are failure modes in the free market. The main failure mode is monopoly. A second

Re: [GTALUG] YAD-Zenity-GTK on Pi - assistance needed

2021-01-29 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:47, Giles Orr wrote: > YAD ("Yet Another Dialog") is a fork of Zenity - essentially a way to > display GTK+ dialogues from shell scripts. I've chosen YAD because it > supports a couple things Zenity doesn't have, namely form buttons and > tabs. I've created an ugly but

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 1/29/21 9:17 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: On 2021-01-29 8:05 a.m., Alvin Starr via talk wrote: I have a feeling that will not end well for Ontario users of telecom services. I don't think it could be going more badly for Ontario users. A friend has just moved to Helsinki. We

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2021-01-29 8:05 a.m., Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > I have a feeling that will not end well for Ontario users of telecom > services. I don't think it could be going more badly for Ontario users. A friend has just moved to Helsinki. We compared available plans: Telia's worst plan was faster

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
On 2021-01-29 8:05 a.m., Alvin Starr via talk wrote: On 1/28/21 7:18 PM, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-01-28 5:45 p.m., David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: A proposal for a community broadband, in Toronto! Several years ago, Toronto Hydro had the same idea.  I  believe they sold

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 1/28/21 7:18 PM, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2021-01-28 5:45 p.m., David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: A proposal for a community broadband, in Toronto! Several years ago, Toronto Hydro had the same idea.  I  believe they sold their fibre to Cogeco.  Back when I was with Unitel,

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread ac via talk
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 07:21:25 -0500 David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > The best is probably the Star's article, > https://www.thestar.com/business/opinion/2021/01/26/torontos-broadband-plan-an-indictment-of-crtcs-delay-on-affordable-internet.html > Thank you so much, this is great :) >

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
City's own announcement: https://www.toronto.ca/news/connectto-program-aims-to-increase-digital-equity-and-access-to-affordable-high-speed-internet-in-toronto/ On 2021-01-29 7:21 a.m., David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: The best is probably the Star's article,

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
The best is probably the Star's article, https://www.thestar.com/business/opinion/2021/01/26/torontos-broadband-plan-an-indictment-of-crtcs-delay-on-affordable-internet.html Sources, from the original article * Agenda Item: Affordable Internet for All - City of Toronto

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: HISTORIC opportunity for cheaper Internet in Toronto

2021-01-29 Thread ac via talk
Some web links, PLEASE? thanks On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:29:37 -0500 James Knott via talk wrote: > On 2021-01-28 8:52 p.m., David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > > Hydro was "purchasable" > > > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list >