Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-08 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 20:39:42 -0500 "Stewart C. Russell via talk" wrote: > I recently spent time debugging why a major embedded > project never came with a PDF manual, despite their docs being managed > in Sphinx. It turns out that there's one instance of a Unicode omega / > Ohm symbol in their

Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-08 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2022-01-06 11:44 a.m., Scott Allen via talk wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 11:28, Giles Orr via talk wrote: I open a man page, I scroll - done. I opened the man page because I wanted to learn about the command whose man page I opened - I don't want to have to learn about 'info' before I can

Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-08 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2022-01-08 8:39 p.m., Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: At least its better than Microsoft, whose embedded docs are essentially just Bing searches. Man RTFM. ;-) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] Debian install fails due to network failure

2022-01-08 Thread sciguy via talk
On 2022-01-08 16:16, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: sciguy via talk This second message had a lot more useful information. That eliminates several hypotheses / blind alleys. | On 2022-01-08 11:20, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > [I hate top-posting but it seems best in

Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

2022-01-08 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
info was only ever a Gnu thing, and there are as many people who'd do the opposite of what the FSF would say on principle. A major strike against info is its reliance on texinfo,  its own weird markup language. texinfo also has dependencies that run into the gigabytes, since installing texinfo

Re: [GTALUG] Debian install fails due to network failure

2022-01-08 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: sciguy via talk This second message had a lot more useful information. That eliminates several hypotheses / blind alleys. | On 2022-01-08 11:20, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > [I hate top-posting but it seems best in this case.] | | [No prob. I hope you will tolerate my

Re: [GTALUG] Debian install fails due to network failure

2022-01-08 Thread Daniel Villarreal via talk
Have you tried this? https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ regards, Daniel Villarreal On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 12:48, sciguy via talk wrote: > ... I have tried so far: Debian and Ubuntu > not getting internet on

Re: [GTALUG] Debian install fails due to network failure

2022-01-08 Thread sciguy via talk
On 2022-01-08 11:20, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: [I hate top-posting but it seems best in this case.] [No prob. I hope you will tolerate my "interleaved" posting :-) ] It sounds like you have two problems: (1) debian doesn't understand your network card (NIC) (2) your UEFI setup

Re: [GTALUG] Debian install fails due to network failure

2022-01-08 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
[I hate top-posting but it seems best in this case.] It sounds like you have two problems: (1) debian doesn't understand your network card (NIC) (2) your UEFI setup isn't doing what you need it to What is your computer? What is your NIC? (1) Some NICs are have non-open drivers. By default,

[GTALUG] Debian install fails due to network failure

2022-01-08 Thread sciguy via talk
This has happened with what I have tried so far: Debian and Ubuntu. I have been accustomed to my network card being auto-detected and the internet being automatically connected with an installation, but I am not getting internet on installation, so much of the installation has failed. This