Re: [GTALUG] Today! Re: [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow

2021-08-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:42:28PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Alan made a Zoom recording. I would guess that it will be made public. > > The QA session was not recorded. I found it very interesting, but then I > would since I asked too many of the questions. I just forgot it

Re: [GTALUG] Today! Re: [GTALUG-Announce] Meeting Tomorrow

2021-08-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:13:18AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > The actual meeting will be at 7:30 PM on 2021 August 10. > I think that the rest of the message is correct. > > We are really lucky getting Alyssa Rosenzweig to talk. She's doing > important and tricky work providing

Re: [GTALUG] long war story: growing the ESP (/boot/efi)

2021-07-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:37:03AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > The following is based on knowledge plus a fair bit of superstitious > extrapolation and interpolation. > > NAND flash and NOR flash are different. You are surely talking about > a NOR flash > > Lennart is talking

Re: [GTALUG] long war story: growing the ESP (/boot/efi)

2021-07-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 09:49:30AM -0400, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > Years ago I worked on an avionics project where we were storing data in an > NVRAM. > We had to write code to manage the wear-out in the cells and if I remember > correctly the wear-out was in the hundreds of thousands to

Re: [GTALUG] long war story: growing the ESP (/boot/efi)

2021-07-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 10:21:07AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Really? That's terrible. I often update UEFI settings. > > Do you have a source for this? I can't find any. There was a bug that made NVRAM read only on some systems in 2017 (that was in ubuntu 17.10), but nothing

Re: [GTALUG] long war story: growing the ESP (/boot/efi)

2021-07-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 03:40:19PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I readily admit that too many UEFI implementations make it awkward to > choose what to boot. But the UEFI standard seems to support multiple > kernels in the same ESP. (At least some ThinkCentre firmware is bad in >

Re: [GTALUG] long war story: growing the ESP (/boot/efi)

2021-07-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 03:24:29PM -0400, Nicholas Krause via talk wrote: > Have you looked at: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/EFISTUB > > Not sure of how much use it is for you. Not for me currently but may > be of interest. Using grub is way more flexible. Having only one bootable kernel

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad P15 -- crap?

2021-06-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 01:13:28PM -0600, Slackrat via talk wrote: > Thanks for the confirmation Len. I glued the screen hinge attachment point on my wife's ideapad 4 times in 12 months she used it before I gave up and got her the T430. Who puts screws into tabs of a plastic case to hold a

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad P15 -- crap?

2021-06-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 01:06:23AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > I'm using ThinkPad P15 Gen 1 at work.  The keyboard, touchpad, and > trackpoint are not what I expected.  They feel cheap.  My old T450 is > better. > > Is it just me?  Or, has anyone notice this also? I haven't used my

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad P15 -- crap?

2021-06-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 12:58:19AM -0600, Slackrat via talk wrote: > I don't know about ThinkPads, but their IdeaPad 330 is Junk The ideapads have always been junk. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 02:00:55PM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Does this show whether more RAM would help..? > > owner@owner-HP-Compaq-8000-Elite-CMT-PC:~$ free -h >   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   > available > Mem:  7.6Gi   2.5Gi  

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:56:27PM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > top - 12:54:52 up 6 days,  7:18,  1 user,  load average: 1.41, 1.13, 0.78 > Tasks: 218 total,   1 running, 217 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie > %Cpu(s): 28.4 us,  1.8 sy,  0.0 ni, 68.6 id,  1.2 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 >

Re: [GTALUG] Kurzweil Reading Edge

2021-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 07:47:58PM -0400, Anthony de Boer via talk wrote: > You'd be on Debian Sid as I recall. Likewise it's good on Gentoo, but > youtube-dl needs to be fairly up-to-date as the underlying Youtube > service and the tool change frequently, so you need to be on a > forward-leaning

Re: [GTALUG] Kurzweil Reading Edge

2021-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 06:32:48PM -0400, Znoteer via talk wrote: > And, if your instance of yt-dl is out-of-date and poutube serves you some > errors, > > "youtube-dl -U" > > will update your instance for you. Here's a brief description from > >

Re: [GTALUG] Kurzweil Reading Edge

2021-05-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 05:30:35PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > no, > Previously I could from shellworld use YouTube dL, I believe we have a > second option too, convert the video to either mp3 or m4a, and get the > audio that way. > It was a dance, but I did it for work related

Re: [GTALUG] Kurzweil Reading Edge

2021-05-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 03:49:03PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Hi Mike > ...Rap lyrics..I need to do that just for fun laughs! > Thanks for the explanation, I cannot use YouTube these days due to Google's > changes where lower graphics tools are concerned. > Hey, at least he is

Re: [GTALUG] e-reader recommendations

2021-05-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 06:09:46PM -0400, wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:26:43AM -0400, Trevor Woerner via talk wrote: > > I'm looking for recommendations for e-readers. Ideally these > > recommendations would come in the form of "I have used > e-readers> and is the one I like best for "

Re: [GTALUG] Looking for a can shield for an UNO or compatible

2021-05-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:29:17AM -0400, Dave Cramer via talk wrote: > Is there a local source for something like MakerFocus CAN-Bus Shield V1.2 > > ? > > Bonus points if it had GPS Does this count?

Re: [GTALUG] e-reader recommendations

2021-05-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 01:40:03PM -0400, Trevor Woerner via talk wrote: > As I expected, there's lots of really good feedback :-) > > I should have clarified that I have lots and lots of tablets and phones and > all those sorts of devices, but I've never had an e-reader and I'm curious > enough

Re: [GTALUG] e-reader recommendations

2021-05-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:19:31PM -0400, James Knott via talk wrote: > Have you ever seen an e-reader with a keyboard?  Some tablets come with a > detachable keyboard and any that doesn't can use a Bluetooth keyboard. At least some of the Sony ereaders had keyboards. They really weren't that

Re: [GTALUG] e-reader recommendations

2021-05-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:09:40AM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Interesting - - - you forgot to mention a huge negative on most tablets - - - > no real keyboard with the system. That to me is enough to preclude me > from even considering a tablet. Much as I hate onscreen keyboards, I will

Re: [GTALUG] e-reader recommendations

2021-05-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:26:43AM -0400, Trevor Woerner via talk wrote: > I'm looking for recommendations for e-readers. Ideally these > recommendations would come in the form of "I have used e-readers> and is the one I like best for " ;-) > > Nice to have features: > - be able to read

Re: [GTALUG] USB "gadget" on Raspberry Pi 4; Tiny Pilot KVM

2021-05-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 03:29:11PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > It's hard to find general-purpose computers that can be USB clients, > rather that hosts. This mode is called "gadget". > > You can do this with a Raspberry Pi Zero. > > You can also do it with a Pi 4! > > It turns

Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?

2021-04-21 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 02:13:52PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Will seek out a handyman then. > As explained, this is the equal to my computer monitor, with the machine > very difficult to replace. > Since the headphone jack gets allot of activity, and extends out of the hod > of the

Re: [GTALUG] You may already have a Windows licence and not know it …

2021-04-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 04:45:47PM -0400, Chris F.A. Johnson via talk wrote: > My current maching, a Dell laptop, does not have that file. > > It had Windows on it when I bought it (though not running; I booted > with an install CD in the store before buying it and never ran > Windows). Well I

Re: [GTALUG] TIL: rtcwake / wakealarm

2021-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:23:10PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > This may be old news to many of you, but today I learned you can have > the computer's real time clock boot your machine at a specific time. The > more proper way seems to be to use the 'rtcwake' command, but you can >

Re: [GTALUG] Idiomatic programming versus micro-optimizations

2021-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:55:02PM -0400, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: > This is simply an attempt to inform and educate ( i am not trying to start > any flame wars ). This article I feel describes aptly why C will not go > away. >

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 11:07:35AM -0700, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > Ha, and many programmers I know these days want the computer to get > out of the way, and functional programming gives them a way to do > that. > > I think there are "niches" for both styles, and as pointed out > elsewhere,

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:58:02PM -0400, David Mason via talk wrote: > The key part of what Lennart wrote is “if done right”. How could you imagine > that the functional program would return the results out of order? > Compilers/interpreters are allow to make whatever optimizations they want,

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:44:58PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > I'd agree if I were doing something like wanting the sum of the values > of a list. /list.sum()/ is going to be many times more efficient than an > accumulator loop on a system that's got any level of vectorization. >

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 02:46:01PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > The only functional languages I've ever used (if openscad doesn't count) > were DSSSL (Scheme with an embedded CSS engine for document processing > in SGML) and XSLT (Scheme [except it's in XML syntax] with an embedded

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:29:18PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > Can you throw few names of "functional languages" at us non-compsci folks? ML (and hence CAML and OCAML), F#, LISP (and hence Scheme and such), SML, Haskell, Scala, Clojure, Erlang and many more. Main idea (to me at least)

Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

2021-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 02:04:29AM -0400, Howard Gibson via talk wrote: >I bought an LG refrigerator when I bought my house in 2005. It is working > fine. Maybe I got lucky. I have LG fridge, dishwasher, washer and dryer, and they made the OLED panel in my TV (but not the TV itself). No

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:46:49AM -0400, Nicholas Krause via talk wrote: > While I would agree with your other points. The problem is you have two > choices either a) people have to learn a newer way of doing OO or b) > keep doing the same thing for the most part. Unfortunately, when designing >

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:21:52AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > When I was an undergrad at University of Waterloo, we were required to > use FORTRAN (WatFiv). I hated it. I liked the notation of Algol > better and Algol-W (W for Wirth) was a good implementation for student > uses.

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 06:10:25PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I wasn't there, but... > > Background: > > I think Sun was a great proponent of open standards. They won for a long > time by introducing new ones and always being a step ahead of the other > workstation and server

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 02:30:14PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > I prefer Oracle to win.  Then, Google would be forced to dump Java and find > replacement. The result on the entire industry would not be worth it. If you don't want them to use java, you don't have to use android. Apple

Re: [GTALUG] Surveillance Capitalism [was another thread]

2021-04-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 10:33:57PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > Microsoft does extremely well with its XBox product line, don't forget. > Not merely do they have a line of the premiere gaming hardware, they are > also considered a AAA game development shop. They've come a long way >

Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

2021-03-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:25:32AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > This is the TV I'd like. But I haven't overcome sticker shock. It is > very good. > I opted for the Sony A1E 55" over the LG C7 a few years ago. No regrets. If I had a

Re: [GTALUG] 60Hz refresh is overrated [was Re: Has the graphics-card world gone mad?]

2021-03-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 09:31:26PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > On my desktop, I never run videos full-screen. A 39" diagonal screen > at 24" is just too overwhelming. I don't care that the YouTube > content is stored at 60Hz. Something adjusts it. I think -- I just > don't do

Re: [GTALUG] 60Hz refresh is overrated [was Re: Has the graphics-card world gone mad?]

2021-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 06:13:28PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > TL;DR: at least sometimes 30Hz is fine. > > Everything depends on your individual eyes, what you use the monitor for, > and the setting of the monitor use. > > For my desktop use, 30Hz is actually fine. It's what

Re: [GTALUG] X servers [was Re: Has the graphics-card world gone mad?]

2021-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 06:49:04PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > It seems that network transparent graphics is no longer a thing. > > Scott Sullivan has explained this in our last meeting. Here's what I > absorbed (Scott may consider this a distortion). > > - performance is crap

Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

2021-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:22:14PM -0400, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > OK, I'm now a little more confused than I was when I started. > > I have two 4K screens (Samsung U28E590D) that I want to use in day to day > work. Maybe some streaming, but the most intensive game I would play is > Cities:

Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

2021-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 01:08:53PM -0400, Anthony de Boer via talk wrote: > If all else fails, a Raspberry Pi 4 will drive a pair of high-end > monitors, probably not with the grunt that any modern game would want, > but enough to be the new X Terminal. It can drive one 4K screen at 60Hz. It can

Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

2021-03-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 06:49:57AM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Hmmm - - - the card isn't current so finding specs isn't > straightforward - - - but - - - - > https://www.cnet.com/products/xfx-radeon-rx-550-graphics-card-radeon-rx-550-4-gb/ > gives a possible reason for the problem

Re: [GTALUG] interesting article on FreeBSD kernel almost getty dangerous code

2021-03-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 04:10:38PM -0400, Peter King via talk wrote: > OpenBSD is still thriving, and they carefully audit all their code before > incorporating it, as well as have ongoing rolling security audits. They > may be too extreme in their focus, but that's another issue. Oh OpenBSD

Re: [GTALUG] interesting article on FreeBSD kernel almost getty dangerous code

2021-03-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 02:21:06PM -0400, James Knott via talk wrote: > When I started using pfsense, about 5 years ago, I was surprised it was > using FreeBSD and not Linux.  I also found BSD to be a bit crude, compared > to Linux.  The only reason I stopped using SUSE for my firewall was it >

Re: [GTALUG] interesting article on FreeBSD kernel almost getty dangerous code

2021-03-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 02:47:46PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > > Summary: a WireGuard port to FreeBSD was sponsored by Northgate (pfSense > company). The port was

Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

2021-03-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 07:30:09AM -0400, Russell Reiter wrote: > For any future issues you might want to take a look at gparted. You can > resize and reformat disk volumes with comparative ease. I've used it many > times without losing data and without having to resort to my backups. > >

Re: [GTALUG] Partitioning Question

2021-03-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 03:04:11PM -0400, Jim Ruxton via talk wrote: > I have a partitioning question I am hoping someone can help with. I have 2 > hard drives in my laptop , a SSD and a standard hard drive. I dual boot > Windows and Ubuntu. Here is an image of my partitions from gparted. The top

Re: [GTALUG] risc-v seems to be gaining traction

2021-03-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 09:44:15PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Most Amazon comsumer products contain ARM. But they are just part of SoCs > that ARM buys (it doesn't design or produce them). Of course that could > change, but why? Certainly most Android devices run ARM, with a

Re: [GTALUG] War Story: debugging remote port access

2021-03-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:30:01AM -0700, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > systemd should be able to take care of this for you. Just set a > dependency on the mount itself and it should magically happen. Yes the RequiresMountsFor= option looks useful for such things. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to

Re: [GTALUG] Which NAS harddisk? -- Seagate or Western Digital

2021-03-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 06:28:47PM -0500, William Park via talk wrote: > 2 of my harddisks are failing, so I need to buy something fairly soon.  I > haven't bought a harddisk for a long time.  Has Seagate improved their > quality?  Or, should I go with Western Digital as I usually do? I am

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi

2021-03-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 07:24:56PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > On the face of it, it sounds as odd as: > > Watch a TV ad on TV. > Conclude the advertised TV's picture looks better than your > TV. I do love it when people ask for pictures of a TV on forums as if

Re: [GTALUG] question re: bug filing

2021-02-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 09:14:07PM -0500, Znoteer via talk wrote: > There is also a package, reportbug I think it is appropriately named, that > will greatly simplify the process of filing a bug in debian. Yes that is the package providing the reportbug script. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this

Re: [GTALUG] question re: bug filing

2021-02-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 03:12:49PM -0800, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > I also imagine you are paying the debian volunteers for their time to > help you with a bug you are hitting. You are joining a community, and > it would be great to respect the rules and processes that community > follows.

Re: [GTALUG] HP Z420 + rx5600 + MSI MAG272CQR ?

2021-02-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 08:54:40PM -0500, steve--- via talk wrote: > > Howdy! > > Any experiences with any of the above? Which is my worst choice? > > Just looking at some stuff.. looking to replace my DELL Vostro > 220S 4G machine with > something. > > Cant go to

Re: [GTALUG] How do you send out email?

2021-02-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 03:20:37PM +, William Park via talk wrote: > Hi all, > pop.mail.yahoo.ca was rejecting my login while back, but I was able to > generate "password" at Yahoo site, and got Fetchmail working again.  Now, > smtp.mail.yahoo.ca, which I've been using as my outgoing server

Re: [GTALUG] Odd VLC problem

2021-01-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 02:03:00PM -0500, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > Looks like they've stretched the main image horizontally. The thumbnail > (which is the same image source) has an aspect of ~1.8. They wouldn't > stretch their wide screens to try to sell more of them, would they ...?

Re: [GTALUG] Linus blaming Intel for lack of ECC in consumer systems

2021-01-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:26:07AM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > If the vendor chooses to segment their market by leaving out zero-cost > features for the lower priced product, that's a demonstration of monopoly > power in the market. > > Intel has done that a lot. Oh boy have

Re: [GTALUG] revisiting, dsl modem ideas for bell?

2021-01-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 06:36:46PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Is this a bell supported device? Well it was used with teksavvy on a bell line in the past. > I appreciate the offer, but since damaging my land line phone is a risk I > cannot physically take, my first goal is to find

Re: [GTALUG] revisiting, dsl modem ideas for bell?

2021-01-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 02:04:41PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > I have a SmartRG SR505N (I think that's the model) that I am not > currently using. That one does both VDSL and ADSL like the home hub, > so it ought to support the same setup. It also has wifi, although I >

Re: [GTALUG] revisiting, dsl modem ideas for bell?

2021-01-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 08:01:00PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Simply placing answers at the top. > One of the more amusing experiences with all these bell techs is their > placing not just 1 but two filters. Not that it changed anything. > While I am absolutely certain I do not

Re: [GTALUG] revisiting, dsl modem ideas for bell?

2021-01-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 06:39:31PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > When the bell modem is turned off, as in the power chord is > disconnected, all clicking stops. It is only when the modem is > plugged in, and only this particular series of modem that > causes the problem. Do you have

Re: [GTALUG] odd evince command behaviour

2021-01-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 04:10:46PM -0500, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: > I had no idea evince can ftp till just now either.. Apparently it uses gvfs for file access and gvfs supports various url formats, and also things like 'trash:///my_file.pdf' if you use the trashcan in gnome. > I

Re: [GTALUG] odd evince command behaviour

2021-01-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 12:01:26PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > This file's name was given by a formal process. The file is one of > hundreds that must survive decades. One doesn't willy-nilly rename things > without inviting chaos. But isn't it a problem to have a filename

Re: [GTALUG] odd evince command behaviour

2021-01-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 11:55:38AM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Lennart Sorensen via talk > > | : is special in filenames if it is before the first directory separator > | for many programs > > That's not UNIX, that's MS-DOS. I said for many prog

Re: [GTALUG] odd evince command behaviour

2021-01-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 08:18:34PM -0500, Aruna Hewapathirane via talk wrote: > Why not simply rename the file to something.pdf ? > > I just tested and the command(s) below works: > mv 'RE: something.pdf' something.pdf && evince something.pdf && mv > something.pdf 'RE: something.pdf' > > unless

Re: [GTALUG] "dd" in Windows?

2020-12-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 11:23:46AM +0200, ac via talk wrote: > Is Microsoft Windows now completely "free" as in GPL/Opensource? > > Can anyone download it, install it and then pay no money and get free > support on Linux lists? > > Or are there free Microsoft Support Users Lists? > > I feel so

Re: [GTALUG] desktop thoughts on Black Friday

2020-12-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 09:31:49PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Another link gets you this for $169. >

Re: [GTALUG] desktop thoughts on Black Friday

2020-12-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 03:57:03PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Ewww. I did not know that. > > We do have a couple of laptops with sockets that support NVMe SSDs. I > think that one actually has an NVMe SSD (one has a SATA drive in that > socket). I've not noticed anything

Re: [GTALUG] Reverse DNS different that DNS server (reverse is a local address)

2020-11-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 01:53:26AM +0100, Joseph Rocklin via talk wrote: > Actually I had done a traceroute on dnschecker.org from my daughter's windows > machine (on my BIL's network) after I last posted. It is attached. I think it > was to either duckduckgo.com, google, or maybe another search

Re: [GTALUG] security threats of Open Source

2020-11-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 03:21:23PM -0500, David Thornton via talk wrote: > I can second the "noscript" thing. "Default deny" is good practice. No- one > has to explain it for firewalls ( any more I hope), so why do we have to > explain it in other places? Have you seen what Apple did in MacOS 11

Re: [GTALUG] First new home computer for decades - Raspberry Pi 400

2020-11-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 12:19:01PM -0500, mwilson--- via talk wrote: > The thing to watch out for these days would be LED monitors with DVI-D > interfaces. They're showing up as special offers from various big-name > retailers. They will work with RasPi, but need their own form of cable, > and

Re: [GTALUG] First new home computer for decades - Raspberry Pi 400

2020-11-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:55:40AM -0500, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > And let's not forget weight: a 17" CRT was 20kg. They're freaking > brutal to move. All that lead shielding and a huge glass tube ... > The death of the CRT is mourned by very few indeed. I got to use my dad's old 20" CRT at

Re: [GTALUG] First new home computer for decades - Raspberry Pi 400

2020-11-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 12:42:17PM -0500, William Park via talk wrote: > I don't understand these things. If you need I/O pins, or non-standard > I/O ports (like device USB, as opposed to the usual host USB), then OK. > I personally have used them for that, at work. But, if you need > commodity

Re: [GTALUG] First new home computer for decades - Raspberry Pi 400

2020-11-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:36:10PM -0500, William Park via talk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 08:15:21PM -0500, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > > .. and it runs Linux. > > > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-400/?resellerType=home > > And, no price! So far price of US $70

Re: [GTALUG] First new home computer for decades - Raspberry Pi 400

2020-11-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 08:15:21PM -0500, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > ... and it runs Linux. > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-400/?resellerType=home It looks great, but of course my first thought is: Why 4GB and not 8GB ram. Certainly reading a few reviews, it seems

Re: [GTALUG] question on Debian

2020-11-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 10:12:59AM -0600, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Debian has been holding back updates on language updates like GCC for > some 3 or more months at this point. I had been waiting to update my > system hoping that I could get things all together as it were. Today I > bit the

Re: [GTALUG] question on Debian

2020-11-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 08:30:03PM -0500, Dev Guy via talk wrote: > Just switch to openSUSE Tumbleweed, you will always be on the latest > path and the releases are solid. I switched away from Ubuntu after so > many years a while back and I am so glad I did. If I wanted something like that I

Re: [GTALUG] Right to Repair Article in NYT

2020-10-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 04:19:53PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Male cattle are bulls (or steers, if castrated). > Female cattle are cows (or heifers, if young). > > OT: "mankind" includes females. "Cows" is often used in a way that > includes males. Well most of the time when

Re: [GTALUG] Group knowledge base

2020-10-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:17:23PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > How do you or your company maintain group "knowledge base"? I guess, > wiki for internal stuffs. > > I'm using Words/Excel files. A chapter (Word) or worksheet (Excel) for > different subject or project. You can insert

Re: [GTALUG] Virtual console 1 frozen..

2020-10-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:01:51PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > Ctrl-Alt-F1 used to reach a login prompt on the console, but my debian > testing based box simply shows the booting process up to the > "/dev/sdb1: clean, . " message, and is unresponsive. > > All of the other virtual

Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 11:15:55PM -0400, James Knott via talk wrote: > Yes, you'd normally have one at each phone, unless one is wired in ahead of > all the phones.  That's common in business, but not sure about homes. When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the house

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > It sounds like OVH VMs use extlinux, so this article's instructions > should help: > > https://hubesco.com/blog/index.php?article47/update-linux-kernel-on-ovh-vps-ssd That's useful. Quite an annoying setup though. --

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 11:24:08AM -0400, Anthony de Boer wrote: > What's the uptime like on that system? > > Going past two kilodays is possible; I've done it. But you end up with > a seriously ancient kernel underpinning the system. > > Rebooting once a year or so is probably reasonable.

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 11:05:10AM -0400, William Witteman via talk wrote: > Good to know! > > I may have somehow got a bad repository? Here's why I think that: > sudo apt full-upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:34:12AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:53AM -0400, William Witteman wrote: > > Linux vps62474.vps.ovh.ca 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.51-2 > > (2017-12-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > ii libc6:amd642.31-3

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:53AM -0400, William Witteman wrote: > Linux vps62474.vps.ovh.ca 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.51-2 > (2017-12-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux > ii libc6:amd642.31-3 amd64GNU C Library: Shared libraries > ii apache22.4.46-1 amd64Apache

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 09:43:37PM -0400, William Witteman via talk wrote: > Yes, it's all from testing - I just apt-get installed it, and didn't > do anything clever. So what kernel version do you have running (uname -a) Which glibc version (dpkg -l libc6) Which apache version (dpkg -l apache2)

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 10:03:27AM -0400, William Witteman via talk wrote: > These are good thoughts - that's what makes this so weird, as I am > running standard Debian "testing", and I've got both /dev/random and > /dev/urandom. I tried digging into the source of Apache to see if > there's a

Re: [GTALUG] Apache fails after upgrade

2020-10-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 05:10:19PM -0400, William Witteman via talk wrote: > I recently upgraded my webserver, and now Apache isn't starting. I > have made no changes to the configuration - the only other this that I > did was to install php-curl. > > My error is this: > [:crit] [pid 1574]

Re: [GTALUG] scanner on hp LaserJet Pro MFP M26nw

2020-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 11:31:36AM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Hi. Just joined the group. I can't get scanner (on my hp LaserJet Pro MFP > M26nw) working. It was scanning fine on my ubuntu 14.0-something LTS > machine. However, I got a more powerful computer and had a fresh install of >

Re: [GTALUG] inexpensive X86 Single Board Computer

2020-10-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 10:54:51AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Seeed sent me an ad/newsletter describing a potentially interesting SBC. > > > > (Seeed is a Chinese company that's a bit like Adafruit. If you like >

Re: [GTALUG] USB power reporting Type-c super speed skirmish and libpartd error

2020-09-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:36:39AM -0400, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > I've made some progress and then lost it again. I had to take a high def > photo of the writing on the cable to read that the cable is rated 3.0 and > my mb is only rated 3.0 but the peripheral card is usb 3.1. I think this

Re: [GTALUG] odd connector for parallel printer port

2020-09-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:26:39AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I just noticed that the latest printer that we bought (Brother HO-L5000D) > came with an odd cable (matching an odd connector on the printer). > > On one end, there was the conventional-since-the-IBM-PC DB25M

Re: [GTALUG] Dice Keys

2020-08-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:15:00AM -0400, Christopher Browne via talk wrote: > Here's a cool thing I saw recently... > > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/08/dicekeys.html The comments are certainly fun to read. > The intention of this parallels the various Bitcoin "Solid Steel

Re: [GTALUG] UEFI shell [was: Re: New Build Computer?]

2020-07-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 03:48:42PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I seem to remember that Microsoft forbids system from shipping with > the UEFI shell. This only applies to ones clainming Windows > compatability, but that is all of them. > > So you have to add your own UEFI shell. >

Re: [GTALUG] New Build Computer?

2020-07-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:05:58PM -0400, Peter King via talk wrote: > Well, no joy in Mudville. > > I disabled Secure Boot by deleted the PK key, which did indeed result in > the motherboard BIOS recognizing that Secure Boot was disabled. And, it > recognizes the NVMe drive as the boot device,

Re: [GTALUG] New Build Computer?

2020-07-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 01:57:02PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Secure Boot: > > Microsoft requires PC hardware to be shipped with Secure Boot enabled. I > think that they also require that it be possible to disable it (but only > manually, not by program). > > Secure boot

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