Re: [GTALUG] dh key exchange question.

2018-10-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 03:50:14PM -0400, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Hi again, > I am not using windows either, but DOS. > The program, sshdos, was created by someone involved with the freedos > project, which is still under development. > When I use the program to ssh telnet well

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 03:32:11PM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > OK - - - good to know. For many years it was /boot, / (or /root), > /usr, /var, /tmp, > swap, /usr/local and /home. I've had enough issues because / was too small, > ditto for /usr. > So on a new system I can drop /boot and only add

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 02:53:06PM +, D. Joe via talk wrote: > To the best of my understanding, these tools are built with the assumption > that one wants to run just the OS that invokes them. > > Although the Debian wiki has some hints > > https://wiki.debian.org/Grub > > this seems to be

Re: [GTALUG] Last Ubuntu OS Update Breaks ffmpeg

2018-09-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 08:15:57AM -0400, Stephen via talk wrote: > And help and/or advise appreciated. > > I am using 18.4 and apply all updates. > > I have been using ffmpeg for many years to convert file formats. I am now > getting errors that have me confused. Here is the command line: > >

Re: [GTALUG] Any Debian User Groups in the GTA?

2018-09-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 03:36:27PM -0400, Sergio Durigan Junior via talk wrote: > I don't think I understand your reply. Perhaps you're not familiar with > concepts like sprints, or BSPs (Bug Squashing Parties). I never claimed > that I was looking to replace the Debian mailing lists. My

Re: [GTALUG] Any Debian User Groups in the GTA?

2018-09-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 12:31:24PM -0400, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > I don't think just pointing to a very long page with mailing list with no > other explanation is very helpful. > > Olbigtenor, if you have a problem with particular package, you can go to > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ look

Re: [GTALUG] Any Debian User Groups in the GTA?

2018-09-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 11:02:08AM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > Being one is is in what would seem to be a severe backwater how and/or > where can one access these 'Debian mailing lists'. I would likely not have > code to contribute but have at times run into some very puzzling problems > where I

Re: [GTALUG] Any Debian User Groups in the GTA?

2018-09-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 04:44:07PM -0400, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > Funny, it's one of the first things I missed. But I guess it depends on > how you interact with the GTALUG, among other things. > > Actually, I'd like to make a correction. I said "User Group", but > that's not what I

Re: [GTALUG] Any Debian User Groups in the GTA?

2018-09-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 07:47:41PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Is there a reason to separate Linux users into distros? I'm pretty > sure we share most thing and can learn from each other. > > In other words, consider GTALUG a debian users group. And a Fedora, > Ubuntu, Centos,

Re: [GTALUG] Dan Kaminsky Bugs aren't random ...

2018-08-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:48:17AM -0400, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > Nice talk on the physics of power management in the most recent shared > cache exploits. Defcon 26 was held in China this year. Defcon 26 was in Vegas the last few days. China held Defcon Beta earlier this year. -- Len

Re: [GTALUG] GRUB's DSL and looping

2018-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:09:00PM -0400, Giles Orr wrote: > I don't think that's documented anywhere, and it doesn't strike me as being > in any way obvious. Well it's vaguely documented in that the module has a description. And it is totally not obvious that a module could change such behaviour

Re: [GTALUG] GRUB's DSL and looping

2018-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > There's probably a GRUB-specific mailing list or forum, but I thought I > would try here first ... > > GRUB has a DSL ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-specific_language ) > that looks a lot like shell scripting. Most

Re: [GTALUG] Messages are bouncing

2018-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:53:38AM -0400, James Knott wrote: > Let me know if you don't receive this message.  ;-) > > > I sent it to both the list and you directly, so you can see if it got > through the list. Well I did get this one. -- Len Sorensen --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Messages are bouncing

2018-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:53:10AM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote: > Hey Lennart, > > That's spamhaus blacklisting us occasionally, your email service and about > five other people (including myself) use spamhaus as a spam filtering > service. > > For some reason the messages coming from an IPv6

[GTALUG] Messages are bouncing

2018-07-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
I don't think I have received any messages from the list in about 2 weeks. The only thing I have gotten is a message saying I have been removed due to bounces (strangely that one didn't bounce). No idea why that would happen since other things work fine, including lkml which is notorious for

Re: [GTALUG] Cannot open rescue disk

2018-07-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:49:05AM -0400, Ken Heard via talk wrote: > So I downloaded Knoppix 8.2, burned it to a DVD. It did indeed boot the > offending computer. I was able to access my /home directory. > > I then tried again to boot the computer from the hard drives which have > Jessie

Re: [GTALUG] Intel's giving away 500 i7-8086k's tonight

2018-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 03:09:55PM -0400, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > 500 in Canada, more in other countries. Starts in four hours and runs for > 24. > > https://game.intel.com/8086sweepstakes/ca/ I guess if the US gets 2086 and Canada gets 500 and Quebec is excluded, odds for Canadians are

Re: [GTALUG] configuring a Dell Precision 7520 notebook to be shipped with Ubuntu

2018-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 12:27:53PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Dell has a sequence of specials for the next few (7?) days. I'm kind of > interested in a notebook with an UltraHD display, so I thought I'd look. > > This is what I discovered. This is likely uninteresting to most

Re: [GTALUG] configuring a Dell Precision 7520 notebook to be shipped with Ubuntu

2018-06-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 12:27:53PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Dell has a sequence of specials for the next few (7?) days. I'm kind of > interested in a notebook with an UltraHD display, so I thought I'd look. > > This is what I discovered. This is likely uninteresting to most

Re: [GTALUG] bash quoting [was Re: Help need in bash]

2018-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:14:45PM -0400, znoteer--- via talk wrote: > > Le 1 juin 2018 à 11:10, Lennart Sorensen via talk a écrit  > > : > > > > > [snip] > > > > $ for f in "*.png"; do echo "$f"; done > > a b c.png a.png b.pn

Re: [GTALUG] bash quoting [was Re: Help need in bash]

2018-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:09:28PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Lennart Sorensen via talk > > | $ for f in "*.png"; do echo "$f"; done > | a b c.png a.png b.png c.png > > I think that you mean > ... echo $f ... Oh m

Re: [GTALUG] bash quoting [was Re: Help need in bash]

2018-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 10:56:39AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Rules for quoting in bash (or any language with macro semantics) are > hard. Quoting doesn't seem to be natural for humans. Without quotes, > data can bleed into code. > > When I'm writing a bash script, I try to

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu DLNA Server

2018-05-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 04:26:05PM -0400, Stephen via talk wrote: > So I have happily been using mediatomb for years. But I upgraded to 18.04 > and it has been unsupported, and worse the upgrade deleted the binary! :( > > I tried compiling from source, but that is a bigger learning curve that I

Re: [GTALUG] Sending array variable over CGI ?

2018-05-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:57:09AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 08:38:23PM -0400, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > > On 2018-05-12 05:48 PM, William Park via talk wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > If I'm sending single valued data over web, eg. a=111, b=222, c=333,

Re: [GTALUG] desktop comfort [was Re: Upgraded to Beaver and Command Line Says 'command not found']

2018-05-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:25:14AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I understand that well. It is muscle memory and it is hard to recall > to reason about. > > What bugs are you thinking of? > > Things that iritate me are few -- I'm a stoic. > Currently, it can show emojis but they

Re: [GTALUG] desktop comfort [was Re: Upgraded to Beaver and Command Line Says 'command not found']

2018-05-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 12:54:04PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Why? > > (This isn't a challenge -- I'm hoping to learn something that I can > adopt from the answer.) Well to me Gnome 3 is simply unusable (Ranks about the same as Windows 8 to me). Nothing is where it should be,

Re: [GTALUG] Upgraded to Beaver and Command Line Says 'command not found'

2018-05-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 04:41:20PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 03:39:29PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > No idea what Beaver is. Did Ubuntu wrap the alphabet or something? > > > > Files in /etc/init.d don't real

Re: [GTALUG] Upgraded to Beaver and Command Line Says 'command not found'

2018-05-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 03:07:40PM -0400, Stephen via talk wrote: > The program I wish to run is mediatomb > > The file is in /etc/init.d/ > > Samba started fine. > > Apache did not. > > Things look fine, but I am a novice with with. Never had a problem to > diagnose before. > > Help

Re: [GTALUG] CRT memories [was Re: IBM - cache skirmish story.]

2018-04-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 01:33:11PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Eventually RAM became cheap enough that a colour frame buffer was > affordable for individuals. For example, The Atari ST (1985) > supported only 16 colours at a time for a resolution of 320x200 -- > somewhat usable.

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 09:23:12AM -0400, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > Try bonnie++ a few times on each install. It is explicitly designed to > test drive performance. Yeah that is a good test. -- Len Sorensen --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 06:35:57AM -0500, Russell wrote: > It wrote a bunch of zeros to a virtual file. Perhaps even touching a tmp file > along the way. Even if it didnt touch tmp, it wrote the zeros someplace in > order to perform the count. No it passed a bunch of zeros through a pipe to

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
> I guess that would mean that scattering unused space on an SSD between the > partions, means the controller probably sees it as being used. I left chunks > allocated at the ends of the drives as recommended. I was just wondering if > my stripes would increase that wear level capability, as

Re: [GTALUG] suggestion: naming temp files

2018-04-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:43:38AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I often want temp files. > > Putting them in /tmp means that they will automatically be discarded > on reboot -- kind of handy. But it means that they are public: they > are in a space shared with all other users (if

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Russell via talk wrote: > Currently I have two versions of the same os on the same machine. One on M.2 > Xpoint nvram and one on a standard SSD. I'm playing around with tweaking > before I do a final config. So far the Xpoint direct hw access appears 3x

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > I imagine he will want to run the Linux instance in the background so he can > get access to a personal git server. > > The course he is taken is in game design and it is mixed Windows/Linux, so > what he actually uses the

Re: [GTALUG] off topic question from Re: VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:45:47AM -0400, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > If the linux on windows does not directly support a graphical interface then > there may be other solutions. > > Once upon a time there was an xserver that would run on windows but I don't > know if such a thing still exists.

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 08:35:20AM -0400, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > I too recommend Virtual Box, and the large memory you mentioned (32GB) > > You may have fun finding large memories: all too many devices have > soldered-in small memory chips, to "encourage" you to buy a whole new >

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:57:07AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > By now, you know 3rd contenders, VirtualBox. :-) But, since Hyper-V is > part of Windows10, just use that. Have you ever actually used hyper-v? What an awful interface and the requirement it puts on the guest is rather

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:27:17PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > The following is an idiosycratic reaction to your question. Not > exactly an answer and not exactly reliable. > > I'm pretty lazy. If I were your son, I'd use just one OS until there > was a very good reason to run

Re: [GTALUG] VM decisions for school laptop..

2018-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 08:05:19PM -0400, Michael Galea via talk wrote: > Hi All, > > My son is off to university for CS this fall, and will need a laptop. I'm > looking at purchasing one for him, so he can run Windows and Linux. I'm > figuring on going the VM route. > > He can use both OS's but

Re: [GTALUG] New Desktop PC -- debian Linux - Proposed 2 TB HDD Partitioning;

2018-04-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 09:58:05AM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Warm Greetings To GTALUG Members, > > This coming weekend (Friday 13 April 2018) I will be building my new desktop > PC with the help of my friend who has built quite a few PCs for his employer. > > The new PC will

Re: [GTALUG] does anyone know how to make CentOS 7's PPPoE client handle IPv6?

2018-04-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 01:53:40PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I have a DSL account with Teksavvy. They claim to support IPv6 on DSL. > https://help.teksavvy.com/hc/en-us/articles/205837513-IPv6 > > I'm using a CentOS 7 box with Roaring Penquin PPPoE to connect. > > That's

Re: [GTALUG] GnuPG/PGP key signing parties

2018-04-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 01:33:49PM -0400, Sergio Durigan Junior via talk wrote: > Out of curiosity, where do you check this? I'm looking at the website > and it's listed as April 10th. > > As for attending the meeting, I will try to go (unfortunately I can't > know for sure right now). My DD

Re: [GTALUG] USB-C/3.1 Video and Linux

2018-03-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:17:58AM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > I grabbed Fedora's very latest kernel this morning > (4.15.12-301.fc27.x86_64) given Russell's point that there's been a lot of > new feautures related to this. After a reboot I ran 'lspci' - I have > USB3.0, not 3.1. This is

Re: [GTALUG] New Deaktop PC -- To Run debian Linux - PCPartPicker Recipe;

2018-03-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 06:35:59PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > My Sun 3/60 has 24 slots. But the largest memory module that it will > accept is 1MiB (note: not 1GiB). So more isn't always better :-) > > As memory systems get faster, fan-out and signal path length matter > more.

Re: [GTALUG] New Deaktop PC -- To Run debian Linux - PCPartPicker Recipe;

2018-03-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 03:59:44PM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Not the OP but - - - - one issue I'm seeing - - - my main system (its over > 6 years old) > has 8 slots for ram. Almost none of the newer mobos have that many. > (Just one point for where newer isn't always 'better' (whatever

Re: [GTALUG] New Deaktop PC -- To Run debian Linux - PCPartPicker Recipe;

2018-03-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 02:47:26PM +, Ivan Avery Frey via talk wrote: > Some motherboards would interleave their memory accesses. I don't know if > that's true today. I don't think anyone makes one today that doesn't. -- Len Sorensen --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] New Deaktop PC -- To Run debian Linux - PCPartPicker Recipe;

2018-03-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 09:51:34AM -0400, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Lennart, thanks for reply. > > My remarks below. > > Steve > > - Original Message - > From: Lennart Sorensen > To: Giles Orr ; GTALUG Talk > Cc: Steve Petrie, P.Eng. > Sent: Tuesday, March 27,

Re: [GTALUG] USB-C/3.1 Video and Linux

2018-03-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:50:50PM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > A couple days ago I got a Best Buy flyer, and they have this item: > > https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-zenscreen-15-6- > fhd-60hz-5ms-gtg-ips-lcd-monitor-mb16ac-dark-grey/10737845.aspx? > > It's a portable IPS LCD

Re: [GTALUG] Booting Fedora from M.2 Optane Nvme

2018-03-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:55:56PM -0400, Russell wrote: > I wouldn't recommend it commercially or for production, but personal privacy > may take a lot of different forms and methods. In a sense nonstandard can be > a good thing. > > There is a pcie adapter for M.2 so I imagine that some

Re: [GTALUG] Booting Fedora from M.2 Optane Nvme

2018-03-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:02:06AM -0400, Russell wrote: > Yea, this is just a tinker-toy. I had figured to put a small backup OS on > this, remove its allocation from the chainloader and then leave it alone in > the box in case I need it, instead of using a live usb for troubleshooting > etc.

Re: [GTALUG] Booting Fedora from M.2 Optane Nvme

2018-03-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:32:07PM -0400, Russell via talk wrote: > With all the CPU cache fencing going on I thought it might be fun to fiddle > with NVM express on Fedora 27. My primary SSD on this z370-A, was/is in > build limbo while I updated bios and waited for outcomes. > > I installed

Re: [GTALUG] dmesg not reporting the mount point on USB insert

2018-03-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 05:43:21PM -0400, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > On Mar 15, 2018 5:02 PM, "William Witteman via talk" > wrote: > > In the past, when I stuck a USB stick in to my computer, I would look > at dmesg and see that the device had been assigned a place in

Re: [GTALUG] Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

2018-03-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 03:23:56PM -0400, Michael Hill via talk wrote: > Good to know. If I add a ThinkPad docking station, will anything stop > me from running *two* monitors at resolutions higher than 1920x1200? If the laptop is reasonably new it should handle 3 or 4 displays and should handle

Re: [GTALUG] Aging Dell monitor (U3011)

2018-03-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 04:00:27PM -0500, Michael Hill via talk wrote: > I have a ThinkPad T450 with Intel 5500 graphics that I was happy connecting > to an inexpensive Samsung monitor at home and a Dell P2815Q at the office > using an HDMI-to-mini-DisplayPort adapter. The Dell just runs at 3840 >

Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

2018-03-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 01:51:58PM -0500, Giles Orr wrote: > Unfortunately, you won't be able to run jigdo on the TPL computers. If > you're running your own laptop on TPL's wireless, you could do this. But > that won't be as fast as their wired public access machines. It'll take > literally

Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

2018-03-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 08:56:29AM -0500, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Thanks to all who have contributed to the discussion. > > All comments read with great interest. > > * * * > * * * > > I have been able to use a public-access workstation at my local public > library branch, to

Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

2018-03-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:07:11PM -0500, Loui Chang via talk wrote: > In 2018 Debian cannot perform resumable downloads in its installer and > package manager? I believe if it times out and you retry it will resume, but it would still be painful. I don't remember if the installer has dialup

Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

2018-03-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 10:52:45AM -0500, Antonio Sun via talk wrote: > - System Rescue iso is good for some one-off hacks e.g. disk manipulation > but not a good way to do Debian Linux Installation. > - Even if you get all three installation DVD images onto that 1TB USB > drive, that may still be

Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

2018-03-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 10:25:16AM -0500, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Many thanks to the many helpful responders !! > > Too many for me to thank individually ... > > * * * > * * * > > Here is what I have digested and decided, based on GTALUG advivce received: > > 1. Thanks for the

Re: [GTALUG] debian Linux -- Installation DVDs Full Set - Shipped To Canadian Destination ??

2018-03-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:28:47AM -0500, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > Greetings To GTALUG, > > I am starting to order the parts for building a new desktop PC to run debian > Linux as primary operating system. Replacing an ancient Dell desktop PC with > MS Windows XP. > > * * * > * *

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 01:25:58PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > My zboxes use Realtek gigabit ethernet. > > I know that those in the know prefer Intel but I'm not up to speed on > why. > > I'll give you a why not: Intel ethernet seems to collude with Intel > Management Engine to

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 03:51:17PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Zotac has announced some ZBox models with AMD Ryzen Processors. > > If you like NUCs, you might like ZBoxes. They are supposed to be > available "some time in the second quarter" of this year at an > unannounced

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 04:08:36PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > I mean a some sort of a splitter driving two monitors. > From reading replies and doing a bit of research, It looks like DisplayPort > has the feature of carrying several video streams and supports that kind of > splitting but

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:25:19PM -0500, Alex Volkov wrote: > All the cheap screens I have either have HDMI or DVI, so I thought to have a > simple common display output that would give me the same gamma settings > across all of the screens. Displayport is more versatile, and there seem to >

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:31:15PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > I tried to spec-out similar system to what I'm trying to get, and it's way, > way more expensive if I'm going to buy all the parts from Lenovo. > > If I were to go with Intel-based system, I'd probably go with the NUC. Yes

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:34:59AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > Apparently depending on the CPU model and how well the board is made, > it MIGHT be HDMI 2.0 compatible. The 2400G is apparently one of the > chips that should support HDMI 2.0 if the board is done properly.

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 07:36:36PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I'm assembling a computer and I'm looking for some feedback. > > The computer I'm building I'll use for development, run some VMs, edit video > time-to-time.  I also already have a 1Gb hard drive which I

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:32:11AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > Displayport is much much more versatile and futureproof. And supports > daisy chaining monitors and higher resolution than HDMI. Also trivially > adapts to DVI, HDMI, etc. I would not consider buying anythin

Re: [GTALUG] The current state of NFS

2018-02-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 03:25:49PM -0500, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > I used to use NFS back in 2000 - back when we still thought unsecured local > services were okay. And I loved it - it was slow, but very useful. So I'd > like to start using it again, but I want it secured. Apparently NFSv4 >

Re: [GTALUG] life expectancy of 32-bit x86 [was Re: Fedora Netinstall] [long]

2018-02-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 08:56:54PM -0500, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > I think you can buy Cavium ThunderX systems if you get in touch with the > distributor in Canada. We have some of their systems in the US for arm64 > build farm purposes. I think now you can, but even a year or two ago,

Re: [GTALUG] Removing write protection from MicroSD card?

2018-02-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 01:21:34AM -0500, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: > One basic check to do is make sure the file system on the device isn't > corrupt. If it is that could account for it being mounted read-only. I can't even overwrite the entire card using dd. It's not the filesystem that is

Re: [GTALUG] Removing write protection from MicroSD card?

2018-02-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 07:04:13PM -0200, Mauro Souza wrote: > Micro SD don't have a switch, so it's on firmware or something like that. > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138518/how-to-format-write-protected-sd-card > says hdparm can help. Unfortunately I suspect that at least in my case

Re: [GTALUG] Removing write protection from MicroSD card?

2018-02-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 01:21:39PM -0500, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > Hey there. Subject says it. > Regular SD cards have a physical switch but MicroSD don't, yet I can't use > this because it's reported as write protected. > > Any suggestions? Is it a micro-brick? I have a card in that

Re: [GTALUG] Increasing interest in the Go language

2018-02-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 09:14:24AM -0500, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > Later this month I'm joining a company that is fairly Go-intensive.  They > originally prototyped in Perl, but over time needed more performance but not > to the level that would require assembler or even C. > > What

Re: [GTALUG] ARM and friends in datacenters

2018-01-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 09:59:28AM -0500, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > There are two different cases to consider when doing data centers: > > * uniprocessors for individual tasks or trivially parallelizable ones > * multiprocessors for things that aren't parallelizable > > Anybody can

Re: [GTALUG] How to go fast without speculating... maybe

2018-01-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 06:44:24PM -0500, Christopher Browne via talk wrote: > I recalling seeing the SPARC and Alpha laptops at conferences; while that > was pretty cool, they were ultra-pricey, and yes, indeed, pretty much > "unobtanium." > > I was pretty happy when I found I could buy a Chrome

Re: [GTALUG] How to go fast without speculating... maybe

2018-01-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 07:40:11PM -0500, Mel Wilson wrote: > According to Wikipedia, the Loongson processors are stil developed and > used. . That is true, although it seems not that easy to find a system with one in it. Well unless you are the Chinese

Re: [GTALUG] How to go fast without speculating... maybe

2018-01-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 03:49:54PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > GPUs are extremely parallel by CPU standards. And they certainly are > getting traction. > > This shows that you may have to grow up in a niche before you can > expand into a big competitive market. > > - GPUs were

Re: [GTALUG] Shopping for bluetooth headphone... which brand?

2018-01-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:22:09AM -0500, wrote: > I got my wife some (Made by LAPTIC) on amazon a few years ago for the > insane price of $40 and they work great and put up with a lot of abuse. > Too bad that model isn't available anywhere anymore. > > I do see some with great reviews on amazon

Re: [GTALUG] xset and DPMS

2018-01-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 02:03:38PM +, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > I have a new monitor that's notoriously prone to burn-in ... This is an > IPS monitor, and none of us thought burn-in even existed anymore. But I > don't think this is quite the same as what it was with plasmas - in this >

Re: [GTALUG] Shopping for bluetooth headphone... which brand?

2018-01-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 08:46:02PM -0500, William Park via talk wrote: > To audio experts, > > I'm shopping for bluetooth headphone (over-ear), and I can't believe the > prices. Is there a good brand that you'd recommend at $100 range? I got my wife some (Made by LAPTIC) on amazon a few years

Re: [GTALUG] Intel Meltdown Bug -- Conundrum For New Desktop PC Build Spec (to run debian Linux) -- Switch From Intel CPU To AMD CPU ??

2018-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 04:48:13PM -0500, Andrew Paolucci via talk wrote: > I believe from what is bouncing around the internet the upcoming line of > Intel Processors this year will still have the physical bug and the software > patch is seen as the "fix" for the foreseeable future. I was

Re: [GTALUG] python sweetness — The mysterious case of the Linux Page Table

2018-01-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 12:54:50AM -0500, Russell via talk wrote: > For a problem like this one and given it's scope and complexity, it is > premature to downplay the core and it's overhead issue. This is not like in > the movies where the producer says, it's not a problem, we can fix it in >

Re: [GTALUG] Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 05:56:19PM -0500, William Park via talk wrote: > Hi all, > > I never understood tablet and phone apps market. But, through recent > exposure at work, my interest has gone up a notch. > > If I want to develop some app for iPad and iPhone, then I would start > learning

Re: [GTALUG] Laptop (very) weirdness

2017-12-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 07:26:03PM -0500, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > My dual-boot Asus laptop now exhibits very strange behaviour. > > Under Windows 10 all is normal (well, its form of normal). > > Under Linux (current mint KDE) at work, all seems ok. > > At home, all hell breaks

Re: [GTALUG] Linux Journal, RIP

2017-12-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 07:59:16PM -0500, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > Looks like last month was their last month of even digital publication: > > https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-journal-ceases-publication > > Jason Scott has saved everything he can on archive.org: > >

Re: [GTALUG] IBM Mainframe and z/OS

2017-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 10:33:20PM -0500, R360 Design INC via talk wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Does anyone know how I could gain hands-on experience on an IBM mainframe? > This is a career path Id like to pursue - i.e. Websphere zOS consultant or > CICS. I am currently a UoT student and was

Re: [GTALUG] IBM Mainframe and z/OS

2017-12-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 11:00:03PM -0500, James Knott via talk wrote: > Well, IBM systems run SUSE, if I'm not mistaken. You could start there > for the software side. IIRC, IBM mainframes these days are simply > massively multi-CPU., running Linux. I have a cousin, a nuclear > physicist, who

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

2017-11-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 02:21:33PM -0500, Russell wrote: > Top posting this as the hardware build is complete and functioning. > > Case = CoolerMaster HAF XB EVO - easy to work in, on and around. Added a > Masterliquid 240 water-cooling unit. The rad took up the case mounting holes > at the

Re: [GTALUG] SSD wear leveling [was Re: Build critique request and the story behind it.]

2017-11-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 04:41:55PM -0500, Russell via talk wrote: > I've always found it a weird polyglot convention that ATA drives are mounted > as /dev/sdx. I know that has to do more with historical convergence of > increased ATA transfer rates with scsi parallelism, but it's still kind of

Re: [GTALUG] File larger than partition? (Docker-related)

2017-11-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 01:52:54PM +, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > As a short follow-up: current VirtualBox does use some form of expandable > file system for its disk images (.vdi files), but if they're sparse files, > they're hidden inside the image file somehow (I could have researched the >

Re: [GTALUG] File larger than partition? (Docker-related)

2017-11-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:25:16PM +, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > I ran a backup today and noticed one file because it took so long to back > up. I'm using FC25 on this machine, and used the OS packages of Docker. I > seem to have a 100G file on a 12G partition: > >

Re: [GTALUG] File larger than partition? (Docker-related)

2017-11-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:25:16PM +, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > I ran a backup today and noticed one file because it took so long to back > up. I'm using FC25 on this machine, and used the OS packages of Docker. I > seem to have a 100G file on a 12G partition: > >

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

2017-11-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 01:18:00PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Russell via talk > > I seem to be good at giving too-late advice. > > The coming thing in SSDs is NVMe. > > > These live directly on the PCI bus

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

2017-11-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 09:35:45AM -0500, Russell via talk wrote: > One thing that confuses me is manufacturing reporting conventions. For > instance the DDR4-4000 modules are described as a Column Access Strobe > latency of 19. This CPU reports support for DDR4-2666 CAS 15. This number >

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

2017-11-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 09:43:43AM -0500, Russell wrote: > Thanks, I'm sold. I hadn't fully considered forward compatibility in respect > of the display. The improved features justify the new price point. Although > I'm a little wary of the Realtek S1220A codec. There is kernel support for >

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

2017-11-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:19:26AM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Interesting factoid: it no longer considers NCIX and related sites due > to NCIX's apparent death spiral. NCIX is having a death spiral? I guess I haven't been buying any parts in the last year so I hadn't paid

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

2017-11-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 07:24:41PM -0500, Russell via talk wrote: > A quick check gets me this combo. > > https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/PRIME-Z370-P/ Looks quite good, although for me personally I find the lack of displayport concerning. Displayport trivially converts to DVI or HDMI,

Re: [GTALUG] Brand-name desktop recommendation?

2017-11-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 01:56:19PM -0500, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > FWIW, the brand I have reliably stuck with has been Asus ... as in > motherboards. Yeah I stick with Asus boards in my own desktop machines. Of course for home I would never buy a premade desktop. I want something good

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