Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 03:01:04PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > My new Razer keyboard says it needs 200MB of space for MS Windows > drivers (mostly to fash lights, I think). It seems to work fine on > Linux without a driver but I would like turn off the green lights on > each key.

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Myles Braithwaite  via talk | John Sellens via talk wrote: | > To me, the obvious solutions is to install every library into a directory | > named for the version, or name the library itself with a version number. | > Then, if you wish, a default version can be chosen

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 03/11/17 01:09 PM, Dhaval Giani wrote: On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:04 PM, John Sellens via talk wrote: I've long found it disappointing the way shared libraries are dealt with in linux and other OSs. To me, the obvious solutions is to install every library into a directory

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 01:09:47PM -0400, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > How do you ensure security updates happen everywhere, or that you are > not linking to an insecure version? What about old software which is > no longer maintained? Also work is not duplicated? Exactly. That is why we don't

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread Myles Braithwaite  via talk
John Sellens via talk wrote: > I've long found it disappointing the way shared libraries are dealt with > in linux and other OSs. > > To me, the obvious solutions is to install every library into a directory > named for the version, or name the library itself with a version number. > Then, if you

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Dhaval Giani via talk | > As an example of the role of distros, consider the Linux Kernel. It | > used to be common for folks to take the Linus kernel and build it on | > their own machine and use it in place of their distro's kernel. It | > wasn't too hard. Linus

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread John Sellens via talk
Those are not problems which are specific to linking to/using particular versions of libraries. How do you ensure that security updates of commands and configuration files happen? It's not a new or different problem. One can choose to use the default version, which by implication will be the

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:04 PM, John Sellens via talk wrote: > I've long found it disappointing the way shared libraries are dealt with > in linux and other OSs. > > To me, the obvious solutions is to install every library into a directory > named for the version, or name the

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
> As an example of the role of distros, consider the Linux Kernel. It > used to be common for folks to take the Linus kernel and build it on > their own machine and use it in place of their distro's kernel. It > wasn't too hard. Linus went to some trouble to make sure a release > was clean. I

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| Subject: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It? | It looks like it may have been | developed by people associated with Fedora and may be a replacement for | RPM, APT, and the like (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatpak). | | In any case, has anyone on this list looked

[GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

2017-11-03 Thread Brad Fonseca via talk
Hello, I've seen this new technology (or not new...I'm not sure...it appears to be a new name for xdg-app) pop up on various forums. I had a look at their web site (http://flatpak.org/index.html#page-top) but haven't really investigated it with any rigour. It looks like it may have been developed