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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:36:28PM +0200, Dhaval Giani wrote: > I am looking at > > https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/192990/intel-core-i9-9980hk-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html > -> Has SMT >

Re: [GTALUG] NUC NUC NUC

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:20 PM Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 10:13:22PM +0200, Dhaval Giani wrote: > > This led me on chase, because Intel friends suggested what I said. I > > haven't looked too closely yet to see the difference between i3/i5/i7, > > but both i3/i5 do NOT

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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 10:13:22PM +0200, Dhaval Giani wrote: > This led me on chase, because Intel friends suggested what I said. I > haven't looked too closely yet to see the difference between i3/i5/i7, > but both i3/i5 do NOT have HT as per ark.intel. If i were to make a > guess about the

Re: [GTALUG] NUC NUC NUC

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 5:46 PM Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 01:05:34AM +0200, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > > Honestly, the latest round of flaws are nothing special. For most > > desktop use case, I wouldn't worry. It is very difficult to exploit > > it. If you are

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On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 07:57:32PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > For the CPU's Lennart was talking about, the modern CPU is a little > faster, but no enough to notice > > > > (The i7-8550u is in the NUC; the

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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 01:05:34AM +0200, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > Honestly, the latest round of flaws are nothing special. For most > desktop use case, I wouldn't worry. It is very difficult to exploit > it. If you are really worried, go for something like an i3, which is > essentially an

Re: [GTALUG] NUC NUC NUC

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 06:23:33PM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > Lennart: One problem with claiming "my 6 year old X has higher specs" is > that it doesn't account for the generational differences in the Intel > chips. Our desktops got "upgraded" at work, but I was thoroughly > unimpressed

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On Mon, May 20, 2019, 6:40 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > > | On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:42 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < > | talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > > | > Why do you think that this was heat-related? It might be, but that > | > would not be my

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> Perhap AMD flaws haven't been discovered yet. But the current score > shows AMD ahead. > This. The cynic in me though goes, that's a bad thing. Because no one thinks at this point in time that AMD is worth exploiting, and who knows what is lurking there. Dhaval --- Talk Mailing List

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> Evan: From a security point of view (Rowhammer, Fallout, RIDL, ZombieLoad > ...) I would encourage you to consider an AMD processor. (Or better yet, ARM > - but that's not really viable on the desktop yet.) AMD isn't totally immune > to the plethora of recent attacks, but it's a lot better

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| From: Russell Reiter via talk | On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:42 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < | talk@gtalug.org> wrote: | > Why do you think that this was heat-related? It might be, but that | > would not be my first guess. (I am not an expert on this.) | | Apparently, at least on Crucial

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On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:42 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > > | Optane was intended to be a cache memory to increase the performance of > | conventional spinning HD's under Windows OS. However, I've been booting > | Fedora from both

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| From: Russell Reiter via talk | Optane was intended to be a cache memory to increase the performance of | conventional spinning HD's under Windows OS. However, I've been booting | Fedora from both a 500gb SSD and 32gb Optane Nvme as I tinker with my own | desktop. I think Optane is just a

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On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:00 PM Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 11:59, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk > wrote: > > >> | I'm looking to upgrade my PC that's served me well for about 8 years, >> but >> | it's starting to be unreliable and I can't upgrade the RAM beyond 4GB.

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| From: Giles Orr via talk | Lennart: One problem with claiming "my 6 year old X has higher specs" is | that it doesn't account for the generational differences in the Intel | chips. Our desktops got "upgraded" at work, but I was thoroughly | unimpressed because we went from an i5 to an i5, and

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On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 11:38, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 05:05:52AM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm looking to upgrade my PC that's served me well for about 8 years, but > > it's starting to be unreliable and I can't upgrade the RAM

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On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:59:43PM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > There is an HDMI port to the Intel one as well as a Thunderbolt port to > handle Displayport video. I'll need to read up and figure what equipment > I'll need to split out 5.1 audio (with is currently done using an optical

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On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:26:28PM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > Surprisingly to me, not the experience this time around. > > The NUC and Zotac models have easily been less expensive than any other > assembled-components or full system based on similar specs based on my > shopping.

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On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 11:59, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | I'm looking to upgrade my PC that's served me well for about 8 years, but > | it's starting to be unreliable and I can't upgrade the RAM beyond 4GB. > > Unreliable: probably not worth the effort to diagnose. > > Can't upgrade

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| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | I am currently looking at two NUC-form-factor barebones systems that use | the 8th gen Intel i7, an Intel model available through CC | $679.00 There is supposed to be one in

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On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 11:39, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Are you particularly attached to the tiny size for any reason? > Remember smaller always costs more for the same thing. > Surprisingly to me, not the experience this time around. The NUC and Zotac models have easily been less expensive

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| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | My 6 year old laptop has higher specs than that NUC, never mind what my | 6 year old desktop has in it. I guess they were a bit overkill at the | time and the reason I haven't had to upgrade anything in years (and | still don't). 1) yes they were overkill.

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| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | I'm looking to upgrade my PC that's served me well for about 8 years, but | it's starting to be unreliable and I can't upgrade the RAM beyond 4GB. Unreliable: probably not worth the effort to diagnose. Can't upgrade beyond 4G: Really? My 8-year-old desktop

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On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 05:05:52AM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking to upgrade my PC that's served me well for about 8 years, but > it's starting to be unreliable and I can't upgrade the RAM beyond 4GB. So > I'm looking at a new desktop system that will be used

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Hey Evan, If you are doing a lot of multimedia editing NUC form factor might not be the best as the CPU may run into cooling issues and thermal throttle under load. About a year ago I've built this Ryzen 5-based system on which I run the latest Debian and I'm pretty happy with it.

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That's just a side effect of the NSA's mail scanner running at Gmail. On 5/17/19 8:09 AM, Scott Allen via talk wrote: On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 05:06, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: I'm looking to upgrade my PC Let's hope the new PC allows you to post messages that aren't in blue text. --

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On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 05:06, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > I'm looking to upgrade my PC Let's hope the new PC allows you to post messages that aren't in blue text. -- Scott --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

[GTALUG] NUC NUC NUC

Hi all, I'm looking to upgrade my PC that's served me well for about 8 years, but it's starting to be unreliable and I can't upgrade the RAM beyond 4GB. So I'm looking at a new desktop system that will be used mainly for many-tabs-open browsing and multimedia editing using openshot, audacity,