Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-05 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
> > The ARM China thing was crazy (we don't understand the importance of > corporate seals in China). It has been resolved (that's an old article). > You missed the point. That was a close-to-home example but just one of many that, together with China's new and vague anti-espionage laws,

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Feb 05, 2024 at 12:30:55PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > High-end processor fabrication is now a specialized business. Only > Samsung, TSMC, and Intel have the capability as far as I know. There are > stories out of China suggesting that they are trying really hard to get

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-05 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 11:38 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: |   | For serious applications, the openness RISC-V helps but doesn't make everything you | need open and free.  Or even available.  You actually need chip designs -- what SiFive

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-05 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
Thanks! The only Canadian entity that I recognize in RISC V International is UWO... At this point I see an extremely good future for the RISC-V in embedded systems but a REALLY long wait for it to challenge anywhere in complex CPU space. - Evan On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 5:16 PM Scott Allen

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-04 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 16:53, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > If the RISC-V design is open source, what is SiFive selling? RISC-V is an Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) - the binary code that an assembler or compiler creates and is loaded and executed on a CPU. The hardware design of the CPU

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-04 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 11:38 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > For serious applications, the openness RISC-V helps but doesn't make > everything > you need open and free. Or even available. You actually need chip > designs -- what SiFive sells. If the RISC-V design is open source,

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-02 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
(Top posting because unmangling Evan's message is hard.) For serious applications, the openness RISC-V helps but doesn't make everything you need open and free. Or even available. You actually need chip designs -- what SiFive sells. You also need a lot of other modules for things like USB,

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-01 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
Interesting. Of course it is always useful to read beyond the cheery predictions. Buried under all the positive upward chart lines is the news (from the same publication) that a major RISC-V "pioneer" has just undergone layoffs (20% of engineering) and restructuring

[GTALUG] RISC-V News

2024-02-01 Thread Ivan Avery Frey via talk
https://www.eetimes.eu/navigating-the-risc-v-revolution-in-europe/ --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-11-06 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:29 PM Lennart Sorensen < lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: > At least the values you get if you search google says it is at 1.412 billion > and growing at 0.1% as of 2021 (not negative). Forecast that it might > drop to 1.31 billion by 2050, so the slowing growth is

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-11-04 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 01:29:43PM -0400, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 8:12 AM Lennart Sorensen < > lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: > > Of course China has 1.5 billion people. > > > Actually, not of course. It's 1.28 and shrinking, being officially bypassed > this year

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-11-02 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | I think there's something very different at play here. While I'm sure | existing chipmakers are whispering in Congress' ear, they don't have any | selling to do. Since the US has already put export controls on advanced | chipmaking technology and equipment in

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-11-02 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 8:12 AM Lennart Sorensen < lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: Of course China has 1.5 billion people. Actually, not of course. It's 1.28 and shrinking, being officially bypassed this year by India as the world's most populous country. Credible research suggests that

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-11-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:00:34AM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:32 PM Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: > > > > > > It is true that ARM's ownership has allowed the US government to make > > > things very difficult for Huawei. No wonder China likes RISC-V. > >

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-11-02 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:32 PM Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > > It is true that ARM's ownership has allowed the US government to make > > things very difficult for Huawei. No wonder China likes RISC-V. > I would be willing to bet the various law makers are taking advice from > Arm, Intel

Re: [GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-10-31 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2023-10-31 13:28, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: Grrr. Some US lawmakers want to restrict US companies from working on RISC-V. They are worried it will benefit China (of

[GTALUG] "RISC-V technology emerges as battleground in US-China tech war"

2023-10-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
Grrr. Some US lawmakers want to restrict US companies from working on RISC-V. They are worried it will benefit China (of course it will, and the rest of us too). It is true that

[GTALUG] RISC-V presentation -- join now

2023-10-11 Thread BCLUG via talk
https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/ Further to RISC-V, there's an interesting presentation going on *right now* at the St Louis LUG/UUG: > MAIN: Risc-V Architecture Differences

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V talk tonight

2022-05-10 Thread Alan Heighway via talk
Hey Trevor, I sent messages to the announce group last Tuesday and again yesterday morning around 9am. Alan. *A*lan *H*eighway heighway.ca VA3WAH / VA3YKZ [image: Please consider the environment before printing] On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 2:47 PM Trevor Woerner via

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V

2022-05-10 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Kevin Cozens via talk | On 2022-05-10 10:36, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > For example, on this page, if you pick the $53.35 "bundle", I think you | > get a complete system with WiFi and 1G of RAM. 11.76 shipping. But I'm | > not sure because the description is poor. Still,

[GTALUG] RISC-V talk tonight

2022-05-10 Thread Trevor Woerner via talk
Was tonight's talk announced on this list? My friend Drew Fustini, who is a "RISC-V Ambassador" for RISC-V International, will be giving a talk on Linux and RISC-V at tonight's GTALUG meeting at 7:30 https://gtalug.org/meeting/2022-05/ --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V

2022-05-10 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2022-05-10 10:36, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: For example, on this page, if you pick the $53.35 "bundle", I think you get a complete system with WiFi and 1G of RAM. 11.76 shipping. But I'm not sure because the description is poor. Still, it is useful just to see the brochure (just

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V

2022-05-10 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | The only RISC-V I have is a WEMOS D1 Mini C3 — | https://universal-solder.ca/product/wemos-d1-mini-c3-v1-0-0-esp32-c3fh4-genuine-lolin/ | . An impressive little thing, but still not up to running much more than | MicroPython. This is based on an ESP32-C3

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V

2022-05-10 Thread Trevor Woerner via talk
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:19 AM Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > On 2022-05-10 08:12, Ivan Avery Frey via talk wrote: > > "RISC-V chip designed with open source tools - eeNews Europe" > > > https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/risc-v-chip-designed-with-open-source-tools/ > > < >

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V

2022-05-10 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2022-05-10 08:12, Ivan Avery Frey via talk wrote: "RISC-V chip designed with open source tools - eeNews Europe" https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/risc-v-chip-designed-with-open-source-tools/ Ah, neat. Wonder how

[GTALUG] RISC-V

2022-05-10 Thread Ivan Avery Frey via talk
"RISC-V chip designed with open source tools - eeNews Europe" https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/risc-v-chip-designed-with-open-source-tools/ --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] risc-v seems to be gaining traction

2021-03-23 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 09:44:15PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Most Amazon comsumer products contain ARM. But they are just part of SoCs > that ARM buys (it doesn't design or produce them). Of course that could > change, but why? Certainly most Android devices run ARM, with a

Re: [GTALUG] risc-v seems to be gaining traction

2021-03-22 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Warren McPherson via talk | Amazon gets behind free rival to Arm’s microchips Most Amazon comsumer products contain ARM. But they are just part of SoCs that ARM buys (it doesn't design or produce them). Of course that could change, but why? The main Amazon exposure to ARM is the

Re: [GTALUG] risc-v seems to be gaining traction

2021-03-22 Thread Znoteer via talk
Hi, On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 08:39:15PM -0400, Warren McPherson via talk wrote: > Amazon gets behind free rival to Arm’s microchips > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2021/03/20/amazon-gets-behind-free-rival-arms-microchips/ > > I didn't get beyond the paywall, but it sounds like the

[GTALUG] risc-v seems to be gaining traction

2021-03-22 Thread Warren McPherson via talk
Amazon gets behind free rival to Arm’s microchips https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2021/03/20/amazon-gets-behind-free-rival-arms-microchips/ I didn't get beyond the paywall, but it sounds like the article is based on ads that suggest Amazon is looking to hire engineers with risc-v

Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V based GPUs?

2021-01-31 Thread David Mason via talk
Thanks, Ivan. There’s a really interesting link in there about Larabee and Intel politics:  https://tomforsyth1000.github.io/blog.wiki.html#%5B%5BWhy%20didn%27t%20Larrabee%20fail%3F%5D%5D ../Dave On Jan 31, 2021, 8:22 AM -0500, Ivan Avery Frey via talk , wrote: >

[GTALUG] RISC-V based GPUs?

2021-01-31 Thread Ivan Avery Frey via talk
https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/risc-v-open-source-gpu-nvidia-intel-amd-arm-imagination --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

[GTALUG] Risc-V Meetup

2020-01-28 Thread Nicholas Krause via talk
Greetings, Not sure if anyone else found the meetup for Risc-V: https://www.meetup.com/Toronto-Area-RISC-V-Group/ It may be of interest to others, Nick --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk