Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-12 Thread William Park via talk
On 5/12/22 11:26, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: echo "$0: please use /usr/bin/python3 (or /usr/bin/python2 if you have to)" >2 Typo: ">&2" redirects stdout to stderr. ">2" writes to file "2". --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-12 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Dave Collier-Brown via talk | In a life long ago, we'd have made /usr/bin/python a shell script, containing | | echo "please run /usr/bin/python3" Bikeshedding for fun: #!/bin/sh echo "$0: please use /usr/bin/python3 (or /usr/bin/python2 if you have to)" >2

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 06:36:43PM -0400, Dave Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > In a life long ago, we'd have made /usr/bin/python a shell script, containing > > echo "please run /usr/bin/python3" I like it. :) -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 06:04:43PM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > That actually makes sense. Then the next one can be 'python4' without > causing problems. But many distros - and many system administrators > will probably just make it 'python'. > > Yup. Here's Fedora 35: > > $ which

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-11 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
In a life long ago, we'd have made /usr/bin/python a shell script, containing echo "please run /usr/bin/python3" --dave On 5/11/22 18:04, Giles Orr via talk wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2022 at 14:54, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 09:30:41AM

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-11 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On Wed, 11 May 2022 at 14:54, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 09:30:41AM -0400, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > > I just did the 22.04 upgrade thing, and it seems that Firefox will be held > > at v 99 if you don't have snapd. So beware of old/held packages as you >

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 09:30:41AM -0400, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > I just did the 22.04 upgrade thing, and it seems that Firefox will be held > at v 99 if you don't have snapd. So beware of old/held packages as you > update. > > Another delightful thing I found is that Ubuntu took its

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-11 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
On 5/11/22 11:39, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: Another downside of snaps: any bugs, including security bugs, in shared libraries requires the distro to update the library AND the snap publisher to rebuild the snap. What are the chances of that working out well? Almost certainly a

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-11 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart Russell via talk | I just did the 22.04 upgrade thing, and it seems that Firefox will be held | at v 99 if you don't have snapd. So beware of old/held packages as you | update. Wow. But it makes some kind of sense. The point of snap is to allow the packager to ignore changes

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-05-11 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
I just did the 22.04 upgrade thing, and it seems that Firefox will be held at v 99 if you don't have snapd. So beware of old/held packages as you update. Another delightful thing I found is that Ubuntu took its very own special path in the "Sensible things to do in the Python 2 / Python 3"

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-04-30 Thread Mauro Souza via talk
You can prevent snap from coming back with sudo apt-mark hold snapd Or you can use Linux Mint. It is my choice since Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity. On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 18:30 Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > On 2022-04-29 08:50, Val Kulkov wrote: > > Stewart, would you mind sharing your

Re: [GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-04-30 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2022-04-29 08:50, Val Kulkov wrote: Stewart, would you mind sharing your experience removing snapd from Ubuntu? I'd love to learn how you managed to do it. I'd be happy to get rid of snapd, too. I followed this guide, which I have to admit I haven't tried on a new 21.10 or 22.04

[GTALUG] Removing snapd from Ubuntu

2022-04-29 Thread Val Kulkov via talk
Stuart, would you mind sharing your experience removing snapd from Ubuntu? I'd love to learn how you managed to do it. I'd be happy to get rid of snapd, too. I have started a new thread because it's clearly off-topic to the original thread. On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 08:33, Stewart Russell via talk