Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-18 Thread ac via talk
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 21:20:07 -0400 David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > Cisco owns IronPort, who owns spamcop, but neither provide any money > to spamcop. Spamcop used to be partially supported by CES, but they > bailed. > Spamhaus is a different company, and is arguably evil. >

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-17 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
Cisco owns IronPort, who owns spamcop, but neither provide any money to spamcop. Spamcop used to be partially supported by CES, but they bailed. Spamhaus is a different company, and is arguably evil. --dave On 17/08/17 08:48 PM, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: On 17 August 2017 at 19:30,

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-17 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On 17 August 2017 at 19:30, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > Spamcop.net should not be compared to the extortionist sites, nor the > email vendors. It's honest, and living on a shoestring. > On a shoestring? They're part of Cisco. They run an RBL, so they can still block

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-17 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 17/08/17 06:40 PM, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: On 17 August 2017 at 12:54, David Collier-Brown > wrote: If they don't voluntarily agree to stop emailing me, I drop them into spamcop form below: ^u^a^c... ^p and they get their

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-17 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On 17 August 2017 at 12:54, David Collier-Brown wrote: > If they don't voluntarily agree to stop emailing me, I drop them into > spamcop form below: > > ^u^a^c... ^p and they get their corporate email provider flagged as a > spammer. > > This usually gets them told there will

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-17 Thread Myles Braithwaite  via talk
> Okay, well you still get the occasional manual sent spam from a public > email account by some opportunist, but I mean that the senseless junk > is all gone... Senseless junk has been replaced by Sales people who use auto-follow-up software to email you every third day if you don't reply. It

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-17 Thread ac via talk
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:16:27 -0400 Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > On 16 August 2017 at 09:09, Stewart C. Russell via talk > wrote: > > On 2017-08-16 08:10 AM, ac via talk wrote: > > > Six Golden Rules: ** Spam is basically dead... ** > > … if you run your

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 16/08/17 03:45 PM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:16:27AM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: Agreed. But ​I'd take it from a slightly different perspective that splits the issue. IMO the volume of spam has not abated, but its effectiveness has. I use gMail

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:16:27AM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > Agreed. But ​I'd take it from a slightly different perspective that splits > the issue. > > IMO the volume of spam has not abated, but its effectiveness has. > > I use gMail for a significant amount of my incoming mail,

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On 16 August 2017 at 09:09, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > On 2017-08-16 08:10 AM, ac via talk wrote: > > > > Six Golden Rules: ** Spam is basically dead... ** > > … if you run your own mailserver. This list's members are not > representative of the general population. >

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread ac via talk
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:40:03 -0400 Myles Braithwaite  wrote: > ac via talk wrote: > > 1. Bounce when no rDNS (exim/postfix/sendmail/qmail - 2 second > > conf) > Sometimes people don't have access to configure Reverse DNS (or PTR) > as they are sending with a dynamic IP address.

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 08/16/2017 08:40 AM, Myles Braithwaite  via talk wrote: ac via talk wrote: 1. Bounce when no rDNS (exim/postfix/sendmail/qmail - 2 second conf) Sometimes people don't have access to configure Reverse DNS (or PTR) as they are sending with a dynamic IP address. This isn't common but at least

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2017-08-16 08:10 AM, ac via talk wrote: > > Six Golden Rules: ** Spam is basically dead... ** … if you run your own mailserver. This list's members are not representative of the general population. As a list mod, I can very much assure you that spam is in robust health indeed. Stewart

Re: [GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread Myles Braithwaite  via talk
ac via talk wrote: > 1. Bounce when no rDNS (exim/postfix/sendmail/qmail - 2 second conf) Sometimes people don't have access to configure Reverse DNS (or PTR) as they are sending with a dynamic IP address. This isn't common but at least for GTALUG there are five or six people who host their email

[GTALUG] Spam is basically dead

2017-08-16 Thread ac via talk
Hi All, I posted this on another list, then I thought that I should also share here... Six Golden Rules: ** Spam is basically dead... ** 1. Bounce when no rDNS (exim/postfix/sendmail/qmail - 2 second conf) 2. Use 10+ dnsbl with properly configured spamassasin (cache locally) - with 2 (or more,