Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2016-09-30 10:47 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > … Systemd wants to be everything to everybody. Well, it is called *system*d. init just starts things, systemd runs everything … --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
> > I wonder if that is because most of the code writers are not really human > communicators rather they are far better machine communicators? > What say you? We have to understand Linux userland is enormous now. The learning curve for network operator's, is larger than those who develop

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 09/30/2016 10:47 AM, o1bigtenor wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: snip Not sure why people have a hate on for

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:47 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: > > On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk >

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:52:59PM -0400, Peter King via talk wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > > So for me, bsd is only a necessary evil to be used if linux won't run > > on the hardware, and the last time I had to resort to netbsd to get a

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > On 09/29/2016 11:52 PM, Peter King via talk wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: snip > > Not sure why people have a hate on for systemd. > It is a pain to learn a new

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-30 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
ptember 29, 2016 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ? I'm occasionally attracted to take a peek at Dragonfly BSD, as it has been trying to do some substantial reimplementations of some of the internals with particular view to improving performance and supporting clustering. The

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-29 Thread Peter King via talk
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > So for me, bsd is only a necessary evil to be used if linux won't run > on the hardware, and the last time I had to resort to netbsd to get a > machine running and doing useful stuff was about 18 years ago. The *BSD

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-29 Thread Ansar Mohammed via talk
I have been using Linux (Debian primarily),FreeBSD, OpenBSD and Solaris for about 15 years now. IMHO with Linux, generally things just work, drivers, dependencies, X etc. The kernel comes with more features and capabilities and is generally more useful and practical. In contrast, FreeBSD and

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-29 Thread Christopher Browne via talk
On 29 September 2016 at 11:00, Myles Braithwaite via talk wrote: > William Park via talk wrote: >> To those who knows/uses both BSD and Linux... Should I learn BSD, and >> which one? > > If you read to HackNews we are currently in the systemd apocalypse and > Linux's user base

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-29 Thread Myles Braithwaite via talk
William Park via talk wrote: > To those who knows/uses both BSD and Linux... Should I learn BSD, and > which one? If you read to HackNews we are currently in the systemd apocalypse and Linux's user base is shrinking every day and good ethical people are moving to BSD to the warm embrace of init.

Re: [GTALUG] curious... Linux vs BSD ?

2016-09-29 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:24:13PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > Just curious about state of Linux vs BSD... I use Linux, but examining > my use case carefully, I don't really "use" Linux. I use applications > and tools found in Linux distro. These applications and tools can also > be