Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-08 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
On 2021-06-08 9:44 a.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Chris Aitken via talk | Alt+F2, then r, [Enter] restarts gnome without closing any applications. | Everything is working like a charm, now. Great! I didn't know about this. Odd: this looks like it is going to run the "r"

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-08 Thread Mauro Souza via talk
166MB of apparent free RAM isn't the problem. There are several GB used for buffers/cache, so they count as free. As soon as the kernel needs more than those 166MB, that memory being used for cache will be discarded and used. I agree with all the others blaming Gnome3. I personally don't like

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-08 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Chris Aitken via talk | owner@owner-HP-Compaq-8000-Elite-CMT-PC:~$ free -h Which model of HP-Compaq-8000-Elite computer is this? What's the processor? Do you have a video card? The GPU built into old Intel processors is not really great for gnome. My superstitious understanding is: -

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-08 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Chris Aitken via talk | Alt+F2, then r, [Enter] restarts gnome without closing any applications. | Everything is working like a charm, now. Great! I didn't know about this. Odd: this looks like it is going to run the "r" shell command, but there is no such command. Hardwired magic?

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-08 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
I searched and found a little fix: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1337816/gnome-shell-growing-use-of-cpu-on-20-04 Alt+F2, then r, [Enter] restarts gnome without closing any applications. Everything is working like a charm, now. Chris On 2021-06-07 4:04 p.m., Lennart Sorensen wrote: On

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 02:00:55PM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Does this show whether more RAM would help..? > > owner@owner-HP-Compaq-8000-Elite-CMT-PC:~$ free -h >   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   > available > Mem:  7.6Gi   2.5Gi  

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:52:14 -0400 Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > I think the problem is that gnome is hogging CPU. I can get gnome CPU > usage to 98% just by moving the mouse. > Chris Chris, There is room on my machine only for one CPU hog, and that is not Gnome_3. My desktop is FVWM,

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
I think the problem is that gnome is hogging CPU. I can get gnome CPU usage to 98% just by moving the mouse. Chris On 2021-06-07 2:36 p.m., Howard Gibson via talk wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:00:55 -0400 Chris Aitken via talk wrote: Does this show whether more RAM would help..?

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 11:01 AM Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > > On 2021-06-07 1:42 p.m., Howard Gibson via talk wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:28:10 -0400 > > Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me > >> 5+

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:00:55 -0400 Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Does this show whether more RAM would help..? > > owner@owner-HP-Compaq-8000-Elite-CMT-PC:~$ free -h >   total    used    free  shared buff/cache   > available > Mem:  7.6Gi   2.5Gi   166Mi 

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
On 2021-06-07 1:42 p.m., Howard Gibson via talk wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:28:10 -0400 Chris Aitken via talk wrote: Hi, I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch between apps, etc. Chris, My primary machines

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 10:28:10 -0400 Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Hi, > > I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me > 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch between apps, etc. Chris, My primary machines were having problems, slowing and stopping while

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
On 2021-06-07 1:11 p.m., Val Kulkov via talk wrote: So, sudo apt-get install smartmontools ? Yes. Then follow some guide on how to check hard disk's health with smartctl, for example this one: https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SMART_tests_with_smartctl

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:56:27PM -0400, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > top - 12:54:52 up 6 days,  7:18,  1 user,  load average: 1.41, 1.13, 0.78 > Tasks: 218 total,   1 running, 217 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie > %Cpu(s): 28.4 us,  1.8 sy,  0.0 ni, 68.6 id,  1.2 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 >

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Val Kulkov via talk
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 12:50, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > On 2021-06-07 11:56 a.m., Val Kulkov via talk wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 11:33, Chris Aitken via talk > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me >> 5+ seconds just to enter

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
On 2021-06-07 12:05 p.m., Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:56 AM Val Kulkov via talk wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 11:33, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: Hi, I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Chris Aitken via talk
On 2021-06-07 11:56 a.m., Val Kulkov via talk wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 11:33, Chris Aitken via talk > wrote: Hi, I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch between apps, etc.

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:56 AM Val Kulkov via talk wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 11:33, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me >> 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch between apps, etc. > > > Try checking

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Val Kulkov via talk
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 11:33, Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > Hi, > > I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me > 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch between apps, etc. > Try checking your hard disk's health with smartctl (package smartmontools). Try replacing

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 20.04.2 is groaning

2021-06-07 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
Chris, On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:33 AM Chris Aitken via talk wrote: > > Hi, > > I am hoping to get some help with my Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS system. Takes me > 5+ seconds just to enter commands, switch between apps, etc. > > df reveals I have lots of space except what is dedicated to snap. I > don't