Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-12 Thread Bob Jonkman via talk
I've taken apart two laptop keyboards in an effort to clean them. Both times I ended up buying a replacement keyboard. Once you've got a laptop keyboard pried apart the traces, especially the ones where the rubber key bumps go, are exposed and extremely fragile. I only took mine apart because

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-11 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
In case anyone is interested... I managed to find a seller on eBay who sold the case with the keyboard for about $50. So, whenever it comes, I'll move all the components over to the new case and then hopefully have a fully working unit again. Thanks again to everyone who responded with advice!

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 02:14:19PM -0500, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > I removed the battery again and took a closer look at the keyboard. > It's definitely melted plastic rivets holding it to a plastic framing > that everything else screws into. I really don't want to start > cutting into

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Don Tai via talk
OMG This is a new low for non-serviceable tech. I hope I never have to use a knife and glue gun to repair a keyboard. On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:14, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > I removed the battery again and took a closer look at the keyboard. > It's definitely melted plastic rivets holding

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 13:22, Don Tai wrote: > Interesting way to fix keyboard traces. I've never done that but will look > next time a keyboard goes bad. With unsalvageable keyboards I cut up the > transparent sheets and use them as small notebook covers. They have a cool > high tech look.

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
I removed the battery again and took a closer look at the keyboard. It's definitely melted plastic rivets holding it to a plastic framing that everything else screws into. I really don't want to start cutting into plastic. (here's a video of someone cutting and glue-gunning in a replacement:

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Don Tai via talk
Interesting way to fix keyboard traces. I've never done that but will look next time a keyboard goes bad. With unsalvageable keyboards I cut up the transparent sheets and use them as small notebook covers. They have a cool high tech look. With the spare keys you can play fun spelling games with

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:17:09AM -0500, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > So! I managed to get the computer on and confirm that the issue > appears to be the power button. What I did was unplug the battery and > the BIOS battery and then when I plugged in the power the default is > for it to

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 10:40:08PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > m.2 sockets really common now. > > Older ones are m.2 SATA. Your notebook is old enough that I'm 90% > sure it would be m.2 SATA. > > Newer computers have m.2 NVMe sockets. Those will accept m.2 SATA > devices

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 11:40, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > I have an asus of a similar design and the keys actually pop off. > > They were a pain to get back together but you may be able to pry off the > power button and clean the contact. > > This may be of some general help. >

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
I have an asus of a similar design and the keys actually pop off. They were a pain to get back together but you may be able to pry off the power button and clean the contact. This may be of  some general help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txx05fh41z4 On 1/10/19 11:17 AM, Tim Tisdall via

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 11:23, Don Tai wrote: > If you do not see screws or plastic snaps, then they might use double sided > tape. Slowly pry apart. > > FYI my old Lenovo Thinkpad has liquid drainage holes from the keyboard right > through to the back of the bottom casing. I have not tested

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Don Tai via talk
If you do not see screws or plastic snaps, then they might use double sided tape. Slowly pry apart. FYI my old Lenovo Thinkpad has liquid drainage holes from the keyboard right through to the back of the bottom casing. I have not tested this feature. On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 11:17, Tim Tisdall via

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-10 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
So! I managed to get the computer on and confirm that the issue appears to be the power button. What I did was unplug the battery and the BIOS battery and then when I plugged in the power the default is for it to immediately turn on. After I got it running I was able to confirm that the power

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread William Park via talk
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:48:30PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > If keyboard is a regular button, is it possible that the keyboard is > shorted out along with power button and that's why laptop does't start. > It's is not actually dead? My guess is it's opposite. That is, coffee dried up

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Tim Tisdall via talk | I was hoping to at least get my data | off, but the SSD uses a M.2 interface which requires buying some sort of | adapter. m.2 sockets really common now. Older ones are m.2 SATA. Your notebook is old enough that I'm 90% sure it would be m.2 SATA. Newer

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2019-01-09 2:05 p.m., Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > I think so.  After the spill, I continued to use the computer for 6hrs > without issue. I think you may have baked everything on by doing this. Usual procedure for nasty spills like this is shutdown quick as possible, hoick the battery out,

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:44:38PM -0500, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > It won't even start. The power button is a regular key on the > keyboard and has a back light to indicate that it's on. I press it > and nothing at all happens. I tried unplugging the battery and > powering it like in the

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 12:24:36PM -0500, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > Sorry for the top post, but on my phone right now... > > I bought the torx set and opened it up (thanks for the video which showed > the 2 hidden screws). I can't see anything out of the ordinary and > everything is dry on

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Don Tai via talk
I would try to remove the keyboard from the motherboard and somehow clean it. There must be some way to remove the keyboard. Your laptop at this point is dead, so you might as well try aggressive methods of removal. On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 14:39, Nicholas Krause via talk wrote: > > > On January

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Nicholas Krause via talk
On January 9, 2019 2:05:18 PM EST, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: >I think so. After the spill, I continued to use the computer for 6hrs >without issue. The issue only happened after turning it off and trying >to >turn it on again the following day. However, I didn't notice any issues >typing. >

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
I think so. After the spill, I continued to use the computer for 6hrs without issue. The issue only happened after turning it off and trying to turn it on again the following day. However, I didn't notice any issues typing. On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 1:48 PM Alex Volkov If keyboard is a regular

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
If keyboard is a regular button, is it possible that the keyboard is shorted out along with power button and that's why laptop does't start. It's is not actually dead? On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 13:44 Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 13:04, Don Tai via talk wrote: > > Switching

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 13:04, Don Tai via talk wrote: > Switching tactics, can you get to BIOS? Can you boot to something like Ubuntu > with a USB key? The coffee and the boot issue might be coincidental. Remove > the battery (see video) and see if you can start up with a brick. It won't even

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Don Tai via talk
The keyboard is usually connected to the motherboard with a ribbon, and the touchpad with another ribbon. Stuff might have gotten into the connector and gummed it up. Carefully remove the ribbon from the motherboard, clean and reinstall. On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote:

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Don Tai via talk
Switching tactics, can you get to BIOS? Can you boot to something like Ubuntu with a USB key? The coffee and the boot issue might be coincidental. Remove the battery (see video) and see if you can start up with a brick. On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:20, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > So, my laptop

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 12:08, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > Look up Louis Rossmann on youtube if you want to see what kind of repairs > are in fact possible today and not that big a deal. Yeah, those videos are exactly why I was looking for someone who does what he does. But it does seem to

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
Sorry for the top post, but on my phone right now... I bought the torx set and opened it up (thanks for the video which showed the 2 hidden screws). I can't see anything out of the ordinary and everything is dry on the bottom side. I was hoping to at least get my data off, but the SSD uses a

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Giles Orr via talk
Hi Tim. On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:20, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > So, my laptop won't turn on today and it's likely due to a coffee spill > that happened yesterday. I suspect a trace on the board may have become > corroded. I took it to the ASUS repair centre on Markham and the absolute >

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 11:01:54AM -0500, Don Tai via talk wrote: > I usually remove all connections, ensure everything is clean, then > carefully reinstall everything. Do people actually do traces and try to > solder? These are tiny components. I use a multimeter to ensure connections > are

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread James Knott via talk
On 01/09/2019 11:01 AM, Don Tai via talk wrote: > I usually remove all connections, ensure everything is clean, then > carefully reinstall everything. Do people actually do traces and try > to solder? These are tiny components. I use a multimeter to ensure > connections are electrically sound, and

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread James Knott via talk
On 01/09/2019 10:22 AM, Don Tai via talk wrote: > I'd try buying the correct torx screwdriver sizes at CanTire and take > it apart myself. Then clean and put back together. > They're also available at Sayal and probably many other places.  As for repairing, depending on what happened, it may be

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 10:19:55 -0500 Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good and reputable repair place that would be able to > fix a corroded trace on the board if that's all it is? It's an Asus > Zenbook UX305C. Tim, I do not like the idea of my computer and hard driving

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Don Tai via talk
I usually remove all connections, ensure everything is clean, then carefully reinstall everything. Do people actually do traces and try to solder? These are tiny components. I use a multimeter to ensure connections are electrically sound, and that is it. Sometimes for a loose connector such as a

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
There used to be a good little laptop repair shop at https://goo.gl/maps/APtaLkcY4262 Eglington west of the Allan expressway. I see two little PC places there, but they aren't familiar... Google lists lots of places, including one called "laptopwash.ca" (;-)) --dave On 2019-01-09 10:30 a.m.,

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:22, Don Tai via talk wrote: > I'd try buying the correct torx screwdriver sizes at CanTire and take it > apart myself. Then clean and put back together. Yeah, I actually ordered a set weeks ago to repair my phone and the tracking says it arrived at the airport on

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Don Tai via talk
Looks like a pretty easy disassembly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JRasaPnTU8 Asus Zenbook UX305C. On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:20, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > So, my laptop won't turn on today and it's likely due to a coffee spill > that happened yesterday. I suspect a trace on the board

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
I second grabbing the torx screwdriver. I got a cheap(ish) multi-bit screwdriver kit at Princess Auto and it has been great for fixing things like that. It may not be a corroded trace but it may still just be wet inside and the coffee and water would happily conduct. If you take the board

Re: [GTALUG] laptop repair in GTA/Markham?

2019-01-09 Thread Don Tai via talk
I'd try buying the correct torx screwdriver sizes at CanTire and take it apart myself. Then clean and put back together. On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:20, Tim Tisdall via talk wrote: > So, my laptop won't turn on today and it's likely due to a coffee spill > that happened yesterday. I suspect a