Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread ac via talk
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:17:37 -0500 o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > IMHO the complete brouha is political correctness run amok! > I would request that we return to the matter at hand - - - - computers > and computing and its tools and leave the > political correctness to the bureaucratic elite for

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread William Witteman via talk
The primary activity of this list is one of empathy - tech support. We often help one another, even if we're not having a problem. RMS doesn't have to be your problem to be an problem our little community should help fix. RMS is like an outdated library included in otherwise useful software -

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Slackrat via talk
William Park via talk writes: > Just find alternatives to Emacs and GNU, and be done with. What's all > the fuss? +1 I Recommed that GTALUG not add their name to any such petitions -- William Henderson aka Slackrat http://billh.sdf.org/slackware.jpg 9HS5203 ON HamSphere Ham Radio --- Post

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 8:46 PM Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > > ... hopefully, not for long. > > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/free-software-advocates-seek-removal-of-richard-stallman-and-entire-fsf-board/ > > I propose that GTALUG as an organization add its name to the

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Robert Brockway via talk
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: tl;dr IMHO the complete brouha is political correctness run amok! Yes indeed. I've been actively opposing political correctness for many years. I am of course against signing the petition. I wrote an article on the subject back when RMS

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
I have a problem with this whole chain. First off likening RMS's comments to the incel movement is kind of like the comments made by Gina Carano. Way off the mark and amazingly incendiary but that does not mean that the author of the comments should largely have their life destroyed by a

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
Hi, Without taking names, I would suggest participants on this thread take a look at https://gtalug.org/about/code-of-conduct/ . Dhaval --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hello Evan, Reading the replies to your post I feel disappointed that we have so many reactionaries in our midst. I support this idea. I'm going to cc email to the board and see if we can vote on board list or call a meeting. In the meantime It is also possible to sign the petition as

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Alex Volkov via talk | Hello Evan, | | Reading the replies to your post I feel disappointed that we have so many | reactionaries in our midst. We need a diversity of voices. But not rude ones. Calling Stallman an "incel" is quite wrong and deserves an invocation of our Code of

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 11:57 AM Howard Gibson via talk, wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:46:00 -0400 > Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > > > ... hopefully, not for long. > > Evan, > >Some useful and interesting references... > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman >

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:46:00 -0400 Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > ... hopefully, not for long. Evan, Some useful and interesting references... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman Rational Wiki is interesting, since it

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Michael Hill via talk
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:24 AM Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > Reading the replies to your post I feel disappointed that we have so many > reactionaries in our midst. +1 > I support this idea. +1 Mike --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
An incel is a personal self description as involuntary celebate. This is not at all a linux topic. How does Evan purport to know Richard Stallman is involuntarily celebate. That would be the first question to be answered going forward. On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 11:24 AM Alex Volkov via talk, wrote:

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous ...

2021-03-24 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
To a logician, a non-trivial chunk of the of Stallman-and-Minsky discussion looks like ill-spirited people trying to see how many logic errors and edited quotes they could pull off without being caught. Mix them with genuinely concerned people trying to address real problems in a very

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Wednesday, 24 March 2021, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 11:53, Russell Reiter via talk > wrote: > >> An incel is a personal self description as involuntary celebate. >> > > Yeah, that was an incendiary headline, and I apologize to all who broke at > that one. > > This is

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous incel is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 11:53, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > An incel is a personal self description as involuntary celebate. > Yeah, that was an incendiary headline, and I apologize to all who broke at that one. This is not at all a linux topic. > Actually it is, for anyone who cares about

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2021-03-24 Thread hi--- via talk
# Windows subsystem for linux with Evan Leibovitch After one too many times fighting with PulseAudio and video drivers and having printers and scanners that will NEVER work with Linux, I gave up my dual boot laptop and desktop and have loaded Win 10 on

Re: [GTALUG] The FOSS world's most famous _____ is back...

2021-03-24 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2021-03-24 7:17 a.m., o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > IMHO the complete brouha is political correctness run amok! Please remember that our Code of Conduct requires us to maintain respectful communication. It's been suggested - initially by Neil GaimanĀ¹ - that the term used above should be