Re: [GTALUG] Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: > On 2017-12-09 05:56 PM, William Park via talk wrote: > >> What do I learn, if I want to develop Android apps? Can I use C, and >> more importantly, is there C SDK for Android? >> > > As has probably been pointed

[GTALUG] Intel's dangerous Management Engine may violate Minix 3's license

2017-12-11 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
Pretty much every x86 processor / chipset Intel has produced recently has a Management Engine. That's a separate, invisible, 32-bit x86 processor used to implement a variety of features. For example AMT. These features are generally useless for Linux users since they are not disclosed in a

Re: [GTALUG] Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2017-12-09 05:56 PM, William Park via talk wrote: What do I learn, if I want to develop Android apps? Can I use C, and more importantly, is there C SDK for Android? As has probably been pointed out already, most Android development is done in Java. IIRC, you can do development in C and

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread David Mason via talk
On 11 December 2017 at 07:20, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > I've tried vivaldi, min, chromium (that's chrome on linux), opera and ff. > They all crap out. FF fails perhaps the best - - - it just gets slow. > Opera just dies with no warnings at all! I don't like getting tracked

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk
Pls. see comments below. - Original Message - From: o1bigtenor via talk To: D. Hugh Redelmeier ; GTALUG Talk Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 12/11/2017 12:29 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: On 2017-12-10 09:50 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: 1. You need to set up at least 10 windows in FF. 2. You need to find some kind of topics so that you have ranging from say 5 to 35 tabs open on EACH of those windows. I'm feeling some

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread Christopher Browne via talk
I would judge that an unjust characterization of Rust... Web browsers these days pretty much all suffer from memory "leak" issues, much of which falls from the proliferation of web sites that make prolific use of (often horribly coded) JavaScript that draw in all sorts of cruddy code,

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > On 2017-12-10 09:50 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > > > 1. You need to set up at least 10 windows in FF. > > 2. You need to find some kind of topics so that you have ranging from > > say 5 to 35 tabs open

Re: [GTALUG] Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

2017-12-11 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:24 AM, William Park via talk wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 06:27:43PM -0500, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > > William, I highly recommend you read up on Dart and Flutter before > > committing to Swift and Kotlin. Dart is pretty easy to learn for