Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-29 10:14 AM, Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk wrote: > > I plan initially to continue using POTS dial-up over twsted-pair > copper landline OUCH!!! I haven't used dial up in years. I guess the last time was when we had that big power failure about 15 years ago. As my cable modem was down, I had to rough it and use dial up with my notebook computer. To use dial up these days would be painfully slow. It was even slow back in the '90s for some web sites. If you have any networking questions, just ask. There are plenty around who can provide answers. Some of them might even be right. ;-) --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
Consider Asking About Network Gear Options On The DragonFlyBSD OS Email Forum (dfly, dragonflybsd.org) ?? I gave been an entranced lurker on the dfly forum for years. Still have an experimental dfly installation on a hosted virtual server. Not touched it in years, due to other priorities. However, I get the impression that dfly is a highly reliable and performant, resource efficient os with an outstanding file system option (hammer, hammer2) and a networking stack of notable efficiency. Sime dfly forum posts have given me the impression that dfly finds use running networking functionality (e.g. router, switch) of the sort under disscussion on this GTALUG thread. * * * * * * My interest here is more than academic. Presently I am migrating my business and personal computing lives, to a custom-built PC running linux debian 9, from an ancient Dell PC running Windows XP SP3. I plan initially to continue using POTS dial-up over twsted-pair copper landline, for Internet access on the new debian box. Thanks to earlier GTALUG advice, I already connect the new debian box using a U.S. Robotics USB modem. But my plan is to upgrade the new debian PC with higher speed Internet access in the 100's mbs range. And a separate dedicated box running dfly + nw app software, might be an option there. * * * * * * Frankly, the subject of networking just gives me a sinking feeling. I really have no desire to learn more than the bare minimum about networking !! My ideal would be for experts to give me a shopping list of acronyms and the elevator pitch on each acronym, that I can use when shopping for the new networking solution for the debian PC ... Steve - Original Message - From: James Knott via talk To: talk@gtalug.org Cc: James Knott Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router? On 2019-08-28 08:34 PM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: When looking for a switch it is always worth while to go on the manufacturers web site and check the user manuals. The retailers are a bit slipshod with their technical information at times. Take a look at the specification tab on that site. There's also a link to the data sheet, on the documentation tab. A bit more searching might turn up a manual. We agree that the Canada Computers site is a bit short on info. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 08:34 PM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > When looking for a switch it is always worth while to go on the > manufacturers web site and check the user manuals. > The retailers are a bit slipshod with their technical information at > times. > Take a look at the specification tab on that site. There's also a link to the data sheet, on the documentation tab. A bit more searching might turn up a manual. We agree that the Canada Computers site is a bit short on info. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 08:29 PM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: >> However Googling turns up this: >> http://www.dlinkworks.com/DGS-1210-28.asp > Be careful of smart switches. > They are not quite managed. > Most some with some web interface and a few vlan features but not the > full set you would expect with a managed switch. What features are you looking for? I see stuff like VLANs, various control/monitoring options, QoS, port security and more. > > I have one of these in my closet that anybody is free to have if they > want to drive to markham. What model? I recently bought an 8 port Cisco switch. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 07:10 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: >> However Googling turns up this: >> http://www.dlinkworks.com/DGS-1210-28.asp > Google use has been deprecated for about 2 years here but much thanks > for the link. There is no mention of ONIE which would give me the option > of running some linux solutions instead of the proprietary 'normal' one. > Am wondering if I should look for something where POE is also available > even if on just some of the ports - - - - that would be very useful for a lot > of sensor type of applications. I don't know there is any Linux software for switches. There are certainly 24 port PoE switches, but the cost is significant. How many PoE ports do you need? If just a few, you could always connect a small PoE switch to the main one. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 8/28/19 7:10 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:36 PM James Knott via talk wrote: On 2019-08-28 04:31 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: H - - - - there is a real dearth of technical information on that website! I noticed that too. It used to be the "Specifications" tab actually provided some info. I guess this is someone's idea of an "improvement". However Googling turns up this: http://www.dlinkworks.com/DGS-1210-28.asp Google use has been deprecated for about 2 years here but much thanks for the link. There is no mention of ONIE which would give me the option of running some linux solutions instead of the proprietary 'normal' one. Am wondering if I should look for something where POE is also available even if on just some of the ports - - - - that would be very useful for a lot of sensor type of applications. Thanks for the assistance! Finding ONIE capable switches for a reasonable price will be a hard to do. The only ONIE switches I have yet seen have all been 10G or faster. I keep hoping that someone will start an OpenWRT like project for commodity switches. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 8/28/19 4:31 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:19 PM James Knott via talk wrote: On 2019-08-28 04:03 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: I presently have a 16 port unmanaged switch and there's not a lot of open ports - - - - so I would like 20 or 24 if possible - - - that to me is one switch (with a lot of ports). I'm finding precious little on the web for information and trying to learn things by reading sales literature is - - - - frustrating! A quick glance at Canada Computers reveals a D-Link 24 port managed switch for $220. https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1045_349_id=061204 Might this be what you want? BTW, avoid TP-Link switches. Some models don't handle VLANs properly. I just noticed CC has really dumbed down their selection process. Previously you could specify how many ports you were looking for, managed/unmanaged etc.. Now you have to sort through a huge pile of other stuff, to find what you want. H - - - - there is a real dearth of technical information on that website! This could possibly be useful but I'll need to do some more digging - - - thanks for the info! When looking for a switch it is always worth while to go on the manufacturers web site and check the user manuals. The retailers are a bit slipshod with their technical information at times. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 8/28/19 4:36 PM, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2019-08-28 04:31 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: H - - - - there is a real dearth of technical information on that website! I noticed that too. It used to be the "Specifications" tab actually provided some info. I guess this is someone's idea of an "improvement". However Googling turns up this: http://www.dlinkworks.com/DGS-1210-28.asp Be careful of smart switches. They are not quite managed. Most some with some web interface and a few vlan features but not the full set you would expect with a managed switch. I have one of these in my closet that anybody is free to have if they want to drive to markham. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:36 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2019-08-28 04:31 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > H - - - - there is a real dearth of technical information > > on that website! > > I noticed that too. It used to be the "Specifications" tab actually > provided some info. I guess this is someone's idea of an "improvement". > > However Googling turns up this: > http://www.dlinkworks.com/DGS-1210-28.asp Google use has been deprecated for about 2 years here but much thanks for the link. There is no mention of ONIE which would give me the option of running some linux solutions instead of the proprietary 'normal' one. Am wondering if I should look for something where POE is also available even if on just some of the ports - - - - that would be very useful for a lot of sensor type of applications. Thanks for the assistance! --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 2:54 PM Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > > On 2019-08-28 15:30, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > Hopefully this isn't considered a thread hijacking - - - but - - - - > > is there any linux software for running a managed switch? Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:58:20 PM CDT, aj oeiam : > https://cumulusnetworks.com/products/cumulus-linux/ > > IIRC it is a Debian derived distribution. We experimented with some > 100Gbit Mellanox and Chelsio cards with Cumulus at Canonical and it was > pretty straightforward. Refreshing to not use Cisco's CLI, which I have > never found intuitive. Ja Cumulus - - - - looking quite a while on the website - - - - they're selling a pig in a poke - - - - try for free (with no mention of cost to use) means it might be based on Debian but - - - - someone wants to make some dinero 'now'. Regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 04:31 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > H - - - - there is a real dearth of technical information > on that website! I noticed that too. It used to be the "Specifications" tab actually provided some info. I guess this is someone's idea of an "improvement". However Googling turns up this: http://www.dlinkworks.com/DGS-1210-28.asp --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:19 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2019-08-28 04:03 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > I presently have a 16 port unmanaged switch and there's not a lot of open > > ports > > - - - - so I would like 20 or 24 if possible - - - that to me is one > > switch (with a lot > > of ports). I'm finding precious little on the web for information and > > trying to learn > > things by reading sales literature is - - - - frustrating! > > A quick glance at Canada Computers reveals a D-Link 24 port managed > switch for $220. > https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1045_349_id=061204 > > Might this be what you want? > > BTW, avoid TP-Link switches. Some models don't handle VLANs properly. > > > I just noticed CC has really dumbed down their selection process. > Previously you could specify how many ports you were looking for, > managed/unmanaged etc.. Now you have to sort through a huge pile of > other stuff, to find what you want. > H - - - - there is a real dearth of technical information on that website! This could possibly be useful but I'll need to do some more digging - - - thanks for the info! Regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 04:03 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > I presently have a 16 port unmanaged switch and there's not a lot of open > ports > - - - - so I would like 20 or 24 if possible - - - that to me is one > switch (with a lot > of ports). I'm finding precious little on the web for information and > trying to learn > things by reading sales literature is - - - - frustrating! A quick glance at Canada Computers reveals a D-Link 24 port managed switch for $220. https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1045_349_id=061204 Might this be what you want? BTW, avoid TP-Link switches. Some models don't handle VLANs properly. I just noticed CC has really dumbed down their selection process. Previously you could specify how many ports you were looking for, managed/unmanaged etc.. Now you have to sort through a huge pile of other stuff, to find what you want. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 2:43 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2019-08-28 03:30 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > You are indicating that Cisco is perhaps not a great choice - - - - do > > you have any recommendations? (Hopefully not ones that are seriously > > 'ouch' in the price department - - - grin.) > > What are you looking for? Business level? Consumer? For Dummies? > Its for a small business but - - - I'm allergic to spending money - - - - there are so many things that I could use and there is only a finite amount of funds and so I try very hard to limit what I spend on things that don't provide a direct payback. I'm a long time computer user but just started on getting into the 'under the hood stuff'. Regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2019-08-28 03:30 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > Hopefully this isn't considered a thread hijacking - - - but - - - - > > is there any linux software for running a managed switch? > > Are you talking about one switch or several? There is some software, > IIRC, for managing networks, including SNMP on Linux. Beyond that, most > managed switches can use a browser for managing them. I own 2 switches, > one Cisco and one TP-Link that use browsers. However, some of the > bigger Cisco switches, routers, etc. are command line only, such as a > Cisco 2600 series router I own. Several years ago, I used to work with > Adtran gear and it always had a browser interface, though could also use > a command line, with commands very similar to Cisco (Adtran's AOS was > pretty much a clone of Cisco's IOS). > I presently have a 16 port unmanaged switch and there's not a lot of open ports - - - - so I would like 20 or 24 if possible - - - that to me is one switch (with a lot of ports). I'm finding precious little on the web for information and trying to learn things by reading sales literature is - - - - frustrating! Regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 8/28/19 3:30 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:48 AM Alvin Starr via talk wrote: On 8/28/19 10:26 AM, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2019-08-28 09:50 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: [snip] Also in over 20 years of running networks for people the only switches to ever have a port go bad have been Cisco. Hopefully this isn't considered a thread hijacking - - - but - - - - is there any linux software for running a managed switch? You are indicating that Cisco is perhaps not a great choice - - - - do you have any recommendations? (Hopefully not ones that are seriously 'ouch' in the price department - - - grin.) Strangely lots managed switches are actually running linux. Broadcom ships a packaged software stack for their chipset and a number of manufacturers take that and just rebrand it. FS.com comes to mind. They have a 48port 1G managed switch with 4 10G uplink ports for $544 They have cheapish for 10G switches at 4K unloaded or 8K with Cumulus linux. I have had some really good luck with D-link manages switches over the years and also recently with netgear. Some of the newer netgear switches support openflow so you should be able to create an SDN network if you want. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 15:30, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Hopefully this isn't considered a thread hijacking - - - but - - - - > is there any linux software for running a managed switch? > > You are indicating that Cisco is perhaps not a great choice - - - - do > you have any recommendations? (Hopefully not ones that are seriously > 'ouch' in the price department - - - grin.) Make your own box and run Cumulus on it: https://cumulusnetworks.com/products/cumulus-linux/ IIRC it is a Debian derived distribution. We experimented with some 100Gbit Mellanox and Chelsio cards with Cumulus at Canonical and it was pretty straightforward. Refreshing to not use Cisco's CLI, which I have never found intuitive. Cheers, Jamon --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 03:30 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > You are indicating that Cisco is perhaps not a great choice - - - - do > you have any recommendations? (Hopefully not ones that are seriously > 'ouch' in the price department - - - grin.) What are you looking for? Business level? Consumer? For Dummies? --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 03:30 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Hopefully this isn't considered a thread hijacking - - - but - - - - > is there any linux software for running a managed switch? Are you talking about one switch or several? There is some software, IIRC, for managing networks, including SNMP on Linux. Beyond that, most managed switches can use a browser for managing them. I own 2 switches, one Cisco and one TP-Link that use browsers. However, some of the bigger Cisco switches, routers, etc. are command line only, such as a Cisco 2600 series router I own. Several years ago, I used to work with Adtran gear and it always had a browser interface, though could also use a command line, with commands very similar to Cisco (Adtran's AOS was pretty much a clone of Cisco's IOS). --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:48 AM Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > On 8/28/19 10:26 AM, James Knott via talk wrote: > > On 2019-08-28 09:50 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > >> There is always Ubiquiti. Their stuff is a little more expensive than > >> what you will pay at CanadaComputers. > >> They tend to have decent long term support becuase they sell to WISPs > >> and there is usually an SSH/telnet capability built into the units so > >> you can poke around inside. > >> They now seem to sell direct in Canada. > > Any business grade unit should have similar, along with management > > software that runs on a computer. These units also tend to be designed > > for use on networks with multiple APs. Cisco has some great gear, but > > tends to be a bit pricey. > I would disagree with the Cisco having good gear. > Their consumer equipment may be better but their enterprise and carrier > grade switches have a tendency to have ports go bad. > > I recently went through 2 days of network outage because a Cisco carrier > switch had a port go bad and then the link was moved to a second port > that was bad. > In both cases Cisco carrier support could not identify the problem. > > Also in over 20 years of running networks for people the only switches > to ever have a port go bad have been Cisco. > Hopefully this isn't considered a thread hijacking - - - but - - - - is there any linux software for running a managed switch? You are indicating that Cisco is perhaps not a great choice - - - - do you have any recommendations? (Hopefully not ones that are seriously 'ouch' in the price department - - - grin.) regards --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 8/28/19 10:26 AM, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2019-08-28 09:50 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: There is always Ubiquiti. Their stuff is a little more expensive than what you will pay at CanadaComputers. They tend to have decent long term support becuase they sell to WISPs and there is usually an SSH/telnet capability built into the units so you can poke around inside. They now seem to sell direct in Canada. Any business grade unit should have similar, along with management software that runs on a computer. These units also tend to be designed for use on networks with multiple APs. Cisco has some great gear, but tends to be a bit pricey. I would disagree with the Cisco having good gear. Their consumer equipment may be better but their enterprise and carrier grade switches have a tendency to have ports go bad. I recently went through 2 days of network outage because a Cisco carrier switch had a port go bad and then the link was moved to a second port that was bad. In both cases Cisco carrier support could not identify the problem. Also in over 20 years of running networks for people the only switches to ever have a port go bad have been Cisco. That is just my mileage yours may be better. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 10:26, James Knott via talk wrote: > On 2019-08-28 09:50 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: >> There is always Ubiquiti. Their stuff is a little more expensive than >> what you will pay at CanadaComputers. >> They tend to have decent long term support becuase they sell to WISPs >> and there is usually an SSH/telnet capability built into the units so >> you can poke around inside. >> They now seem to sell direct in Canada. > > Any business grade unit should have similar, along with management > software that runs on a computer. These units also tend to be designed > for use on networks with multiple APs. Cisco has some great gear, but > tends to be a bit pricey. For the price, with OpenWRT support, hard to go wrong with an EdgeRouter: https://openwrt.org/toh/ubiquiti/ubiquiti_edgerouter_x_er-x_ka https://www.deploydepot.ca/ubiquiti-edge-router-x-gigabit-5-port-ethernet-router/ I haven't flashed OpenWRT on mine since it is running my Unifi APs. I want a second for a lab unit to play with. Cheers, Jamon --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 09:50 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > There is always Ubiquiti. Their stuff is a little more expensive than > what you will pay at CanadaComputers. > They tend to have decent long term support becuase they sell to WISPs > and there is usually an SSH/telnet capability built into the units so > you can poke around inside. > They now seem to sell direct in Canada. Any business grade unit should have similar, along with management software that runs on a computer. These units also tend to be designed for use on networks with multiple APs. Cisco has some great gear, but tends to be a bit pricey. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 8/28/19 9:37 AM, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2019-08-28 09:29 AM, Giles Orr wrote: My first criteria when selecting an access point is "does it support OpenWRT?" Then you're talking router and not access point. I prefer separate router and access point, as I can put the AP in the best location, rather than where's handy for a router. Also, with PoE, I don't have to worry about proximity to AC power. I have my AP mounted up on the wall in my laundry room, which is roughly in the middle of my condo and provides a good signal throughout and even out on my balcony. If I used router WiFi, in my computer room, I'd have a poor signal at the far end of my unit. Regardless, the lack of info on those Samsung devices is a real issue. That indicates dummy grade gear and limits what someone can do with it. BTW, I use pfSense for my firewall. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk There is always Ubiquiti. Their stuff is a little more expensive than what you will pay at CanadaComputers. They tend to have decent long term support becuase they sell to WISPs and there is usually an SSH/telnet capability built into the units so you can poke around inside. They now seem to sell direct in Canada. -- Alvin Starr || land: (647)478-6285 Netvel Inc. || Cell: (416)806-0133 al...@netvel.net || --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-28 09:29 AM, Giles Orr wrote: > > My first criteria when selecting an access point is "does it support > OpenWRT?" Then you're talking router and not access point. I prefer separate router and access point, as I can put the AP in the best location, rather than where's handy for a router. Also, with PoE, I don't have to worry about proximity to AC power. I have my AP mounted up on the wall in my laundry room, which is roughly in the middle of my condo and provides a good signal throughout and even out on my balcony. If I used router WiFi, in my computer room, I'd have a poor signal at the far end of my unit. Regardless, the lack of info on those Samsung devices is a real issue. That indicates dummy grade gear and limits what someone can do with it. BTW, I use pfSense for my firewall. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 08:58, James Knott via talk wrote: > On 2019-08-27 09:37 PM, William Park via talk wrote: > > I had routers from D-Link, TP-Link, Asus, Linksys. They all died. > > Current one is Asus RT-N66U and 5GHz band is flaking out. So, while > > browsing at Canada Computers, I found "Samsung Connect Home 2x2" and > > "4x4". > > > https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1046_1573_id=109992 > > > https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1046_1573_id=109994 > > > > Anyone heard good thing about them, as pure wireless router? The online > > reviews mostly talk about "smart" features which I have no idea what > > they're talking about. > > The manual is a little short on detail. While it's shown being used as > an access point, it says it's a router. However, I see nothing about > configuring anything about networks. Does it support IPv6? VLANs? I > strongly support separate access points and have one on my home > network. However, separate access points tend to support PoE. There is > no mention of that. Even with the full user manual, there is simply not > enough info to make an educated decision. > > http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201801/20180123114518553/ET-WV530_UM_EU_ASIA_Type_Rev.1.0_180123.pdf > > The D-Link DAP-2660 business grade AP appears to be a more capable > device in that price range. > > https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1056_356_id=076368 > My first criteria when selecting an access point is "does it support OpenWRT?" (Or any open source firmware, but I prefer OpenWRT as I'm familiar with it.) My current WAP is the TP-Link Archer C1750. It's pretty old, but sturdy, well equipped (reasonable amount of memory, a couple USB ports - one of which I'm happily using for a 2TB network-shared hard drive), and well supported. OpenWRT is almost certainly more secure than the stock firmware, and certainly more capable (although there are instances where it doesn't support specialized hardware that the stock firmware of course does - again, read up before you buy). Even if you don't intend to update the firmware I think checking for support is a good idea because you're encouraging companies to produce open-source-compatible hardware, and if there's a major security problem with the original firmware that's not fixed at some future date, you at least have options. The Samsungs you mentioned aren't supported. Neither is the DAP-2660 named by James Knott. Your starting point: https://openwrt.org/toh/ The TP-Link Archer c1750: https://openwrt.org/toh/start?dataflt%5BBrand*%7E%5D=tp-link%5BModel*%7E%5D=1750 Note that this is a game of versions: if you're buying the c1750, you want to buy one of the known versions, anything from v1 through v5. If you encounter a "v6" (I don't know if that exists yet), it appears to not be supported yet. These versions are printed in very small numbers on the box - or, depending on the manufacturer ... some don't bother putting it on the outside so you can't tell the version until you open the package. Yeah, getting the right WAP for OSS is a PITA, but you're already a Linux user and used to fighting with your hardware, right? -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ giles...@gmail.com --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Samsung router?
On 2019-08-27 09:37 PM, William Park via talk wrote: > I had routers from D-Link, TP-Link, Asus, Linksys. They all died. > Current one is Asus RT-N66U and 5GHz band is flaking out. So, while > browsing at Canada Computers, I found "Samsung Connect Home 2x2" and > "4x4". > > https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1046_1573_id=109992 > > https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1046_1573_id=109994 > > Anyone heard good thing about them, as pure wireless router? The online > reviews mostly talk about "smart" features which I have no idea what > they're talking about. The manual is a little short on detail. While it's shown being used as an access point, it says it's a router. However, I see nothing about configuring anything about networks. Does it support IPv6? VLANs? I strongly support separate access points and have one on my home network. However, separate access points tend to support PoE. There is no mention of that. Even with the full user manual, there is simply not enough info to make an educated decision. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201801/20180123114518553/ET-WV530_UM_EU_ASIA_Type_Rev.1.0_180123.pdf The D-Link DAP-2660 business grade AP appears to be a more capable device in that price range. https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1056_356_id=076368 --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
[GTALUG] Samsung router?
I had routers from D-Link, TP-Link, Asus, Linksys. They all died. Current one is Asus RT-N66U and 5GHz band is flaking out. So, while browsing at Canada Computers, I found "Samsung Connect Home 2x2" and "4x4". https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1046_1573_id=109992 https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1046_1573_id=109994 Anyone heard good thing about them, as pure wireless router? The online reviews mostly talk about "smart" features which I have no idea what they're talking about. -- William Park --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
