Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 12:15:50PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > How would it qualify as HDR? OK: I know, HDR is anything marketeers > think that they can get away with. HDR defines a larger range of brightness. So without HDR your 8bit values 0 to 255 (well video rather than

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk Thanks for this informative message. | To: D. Hugh Redelmeier , GTALUG Talk | | On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 05:39:15PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > HDR (High Dynamic Range) means a confusing variety of things, | > especially after marketing has

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2019-06-07 11:55 AM, Christopher Browne via talk wrote: > I own a few shares (and loved getting annual reports back in the Iridium > project days where the company had a major Space Division), so got some > notices of things.  I had a few shares of Freescale at one point... > > Having share

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread Christopher Browne via talk
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 10:19, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:29:08AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk > wrote: > > Something manufactured in China with a "Motorola" brand (owned by > > Lenovo, an RoC company) may seem like a safer bet than one with a > > "Umidigi"

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 05:39:15PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > HDR (High Dynamic Range) means a confusing variety of things, > especially after marketing has had at it. But "normal" computer > pixels have 8 bits per colour in each pixel. HDR often means 10 bits > per colour in

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 01:45:39PM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > Hi all. > > I'd like to take the opportunity of this thread to ask about the > suitability of using a TV as a computer monitor. > Right now I have a dual screen setup with one 24" and one 22". The colour > doesn't quite

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:40:05AM -0400, James Knott via talk wrote: > BTW, a friend bought a Lenovo, not ThinkPad, and it had that horrible > English/French keyboard, that wasn't compatible with either the original > English or French keyboards.  She soon returned it for that reason. The non

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:29:08AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Something manufactured in China with a "Motorola" brand (owned by > Lenovo, an RoC company) may seem like a safer bet than one with a > "Umidigi" or "Doogee" brand. Remember when Motorola was a US company? > When they

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-01 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2019-05-31 3:45 p.m., James Knott via talk wrote: > > RCA used to have a picture tube plant in Midland.  It's probably gone > now.  ;-) Yup, the little white dot plinked away some time ago. Midland had some surprising high tech for a while. Leitz had their lens and camera factory there. I'd

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-06-01 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | Subject: Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV | I'd like to take the opportunity of this thread to ask about the | suitability of using a TV as a computer monitor. I've been mentioning this on the mailing list for almost 4 years. | Right now I have a dual

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 13:46, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > > I'd like to take the opportunity of this thread to ask about the > suitability of using a TV as a computer monitor. > Right now I have a dual screen setup with one 24" and one 22". The colour > doesn't quite match between the two

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2019-05-31 03:16 PM, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > (To go back the the "where are they made?" subtopic, Ontario used to > be a major source of an element critical to high quality colour CRTs: > yttrium, I think it was. The uranium mines around Elliot Lake were a > major source, but now

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson via talk
On Fri, 31 May 2019, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: How viable Is it to use a TV as monitor, ignore the "smart" crap and just plug in the HDMI? Are there features or specs needed for a TV to make it usable for close viewing? I use a 49" LG 1080p smart TV for a monitor via HDMI. I love

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Fri., May 31, 2019, 13:46 Evan Leibovitch via talk, wrote: > Right now I have a dual screen setup with one 24" and one 22". The colour > doesn't quite match between the two of them > Have you tried colour calibrating them? Different vendors have different white points, and almost every

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread David Mason via talk
I have used a projector for “TV” (Netflix/Youtube) watching for the last 5 years. It has 2 HDMI ports, and is quite nice. It’s “only” 1080p, but when it’s a 90” screen, that’s pretty good. I had a BenQ, but the bulb was always a problem, so I recently replaced it with a XGIMI, and it’s awesome!

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2019-05-31 01:45 PM, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > How viable Is it to use a TV as monitor, ignore the "smart" crap and > just plug in the HDMI? Are there features or specs needed for a TV to > make it usable for close viewing? > I have used my TVs on occasion as a monitor and worked fine. 

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
Hi all. I'd like to take the opportunity of this thread to ask about the suitability of using a TV as a computer monitor. Right now I have a dual screen setup with one 24" and one 22". The colour doesn't quite match between the two of them and some thick bezels prevent useful work with a window

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk | - sometime companies just exploit the delay between cheapening | a product and the marketplace recognizing that effect. | | [Porche makes SUVs! RCA, Westinghouse, Marantz, ...] Of course these were pretty off-brand for Porsche too:

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2019-05-31 11:29 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > For whatever reason, few RoC companies have brands that are valuable > in North America. I'm old enough that I remember that being true of > Japanese brands. I think I first heard of Sharp in 1965 on a visit to > Hong Kong. In Japan,

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Don Tai via talk | I don't think you can get a TV or monitor that is not made in China, but | someone please tell me I'm wrong. Sharp had Japanese factories. They had Mexican factories. Those are places that the old TV might have been manufactured. The more you look at it, the more

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:19:10AM -0400, Don Tai via talk wrote: > I don't think you can get a TV or monitor that is not made in China, but > someone please tell me I'm wrong. Define "made". :) Certainly as of a couple of years ago, LG OLED TVs were assembled in Mexico for the north american

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 09:33:49AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I intend to buy a much better monitor (which might be a TV). The > thing is that (1) I'm cheap, and (2) my idea of "much better" is alway > coming soon but never here. Isn't that always the problem. > Sharp is

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
I've seen some screens with 'Made in Mexico' label. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/11/30/166180397/why-mexico-is-the-worlds-biggest-exporter-of-flat-screen-tvs According to this article from 2012 Mexico is the largest exporter of flat screen TVs. Alex. On 2019-05-31 10:19 a.m.,

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread Don Tai via talk
I don't think you can get a TV or monitor that is not made in China, but someone please tell me I'm wrong. On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 09:54, James Knott via talk wrote: > On 2019-05-31 09:33 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > So: before 2015, Sharp was an interesting brand. > > Now: it is a

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2019-05-31 09:33 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > So: before 2015, Sharp was an interesting brand. > Now: it is a low-end brand (often with good value for money). > Future: who knows. > But: there have been real improvements technology over that same time > period, so a new Sharp TV

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: James Knott via talk | FWIW, I recently took a 42" Sharp TV to the recycling centre.  I bought | a new 43" Sharp for $349.  That's getting close to what a repair is | likely to cost.  Much of my career has been in repair, though not TVs.  | I've often realized it's better to toss &

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-30 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2019-05-30 02:09 PM, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > For the benefit of others, I would highly recommend Rosebud > Technologies in Markham if you do not have the time, ability, or > inclination to repair your broken electronics > yourself. http://www.rosebudtech.ca/ > FWIW, I recently took a

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-30 Thread Clifford Ilkay via talk
For the benefit of others, I would highly recommend Rosebud Technologies in Markham if you do not have the time, ability, or inclination to repair your broken electronics yourself. http://www.rosebudtech.ca/ Regards, Clifford Ilkay +1 647-778-8696 On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:43 PM Don Tai via

Re: [GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-30 Thread Don Tai via talk
Congrats. One less monitor in the landfill! I strive to repair all I can. On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 13:41, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > My 39" UltraHD TV, the one that I used as my main computer monitor for > almost four years, stopped working. > > The symptom was that it just would not

[GTALUG] war story: fixing an LCD TV

2019-05-30 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
My 39" UltraHD TV, the one that I used as my main computer monitor for almost four years, stopped working. The symptom was that it just would not turn on. The status light below the screen stayed red, meaning something like "standby". Normally it turns blue when I'm using it. Googling and