Re: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Anirudh Zala
On Sunday 11 February 2007 20:37, Peter Sawczynec wrote: > The use of the captcha technique has become a type of industry standard. "Industry standard" is very important thing to be considered. Basically one would not use non-industry standards too much. However certain changes are allowed. Cert

Re: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Rolan Yang
Interesting, that URL fails to open in Opera browser. "invalid URL" error. ~Rolan tedd wrote: At 10:07 AM -0500 2/11/07, Peter Sawczynec wrote: The use of the captcha technique has become a type of industry standard. I have found customers to quickly recognize and endorse this technique. The

RE: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Urb LeJeune
While that is true, there are other captcha's to consider, like these: http://xn--nvg.com/captcha This is slick, however, I would prefer that the letters not be case sensitive. I received two failures before I realized what was happening. Urb ___

RE: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread tedd
At 10:07 AM -0500 2/11/07, Peter Sawczynec wrote: The use of the captcha technique has become a type of industry standard. I have found customers to quickly recognize and endorse this technique. The Pro PHP Security guidebook offers an elegant deployment of this solution. Plus, I thought, that

Re: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread David Krings
michael wrote: It is not bad to lookup the domain and see if there is an MX record. That can catch some obvious noodling. Collecting email bounces and scripting unsubscribe should be a no-brainer.. and part of a complete app. Good idea, but I recommend putting in some threshold. It happens

Re: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread michael
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:07:26 -0500 "Peter Sawczynec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The use of the captcha technique has become a type of industry > standard. > > I have found customers to quickly recognize and endorse this > technique. The Pro PHP Security guidebook offers an elegant > deployment

RE: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Peter Sawczynec
The use of the captcha technique has become a type of industry standard. I have found customers to quickly recognize and endorse this technique. The Pro PHP Security guidebook offers an elegant deployment of this solution. Plus, I thought, that email validation(s) by any technique is fraught wit

Re: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Jiju Thomas Mathew
Does anyone have any suggestions other then captcha. I do think partial use of email address validations using SMTP connect would restrict a lot of these bogus mail subscriptions. you should find a neat article here http://www.zend.com/zend/spotlight/ev12apr.php -- Jiju Thomas Mathew http://w

Re: [nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Nazmul Hassan
well you can always build on the word filters you had there..with the http:// and what not. have the form check for urls and words. and, you could implement a sort of email block, for those spamers that stick to one email. On 2/11/07, Urb LeJeune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seem that any

[nyphp-talk] capricious submission of forms

2007-02-11 Thread Urb LeJeune
It seem that any form on a web site attracts morons who capricious submit to these forms. I'm not talking about just hitting the submit button but rather a fully filled out form. In some cases, such as a guest book, their action is misguided but understandable. They want to advertise the sites se