Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread JB Hewitt - Blade
I highly recommend Vanilla, it's a forum for the 21st century. On 3/9/07, Ajai Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Cliff Hirsch wrote: > Does anyone have suggestions regarding a great forum package for a business, > not consumer, web site? What about vBulletin, although it l

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread inforequest
Kenneth Downs ken-at-secdat.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote: Tom Melendez wrote: Using an absolute path gets you none of the troubles you mentioned with relative path, and none of the caching problems you'd get with an absolute URL. The only trouble I have found with absolute paths

[nyphp-talk] FW: PHP statistics for February 2007

2007-03-08 Thread Hans Zaunere
All, some generally useful stats > PHP adoption statistics for February 2007 are released. > > Statistiques PHP de Février 2007 > > * PHP 5 reached 15% of all market share : > its growth is steady. > * PHP 5.2. is now the most popular PHP 5 version > * PHP 5.2.1 was the most

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Cliff Hirsch wrote: > Does anyone have suggestions regarding a great forum package for a business, > not consumer, web site? What about vBulletin, although it looks like a > commercial product. Is phpBB2 the way to go? I though it was known to have > security issues. Suggestion

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Kenneth Downs
Tom Melendez wrote: Using an absolute path gets you none of the troubles you mentioned with relative path, and none of the caching problems you'd get with an absolute URL. The only trouble I have found with absolute paths is that it makes the assumption of DocumentRoot and where your files are

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Tom Melendez
Using an absolute path gets you none of the troubles you mentioned with relative path, and none of the caching problems you'd get with an absolute URL. The only trouble I have found with absolute paths is that it makes the assumption of DocumentRoot and where your files are to it. If all of you

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Rob Marscher
Thanks... I sent my response before I got Allen's. All clear now. :) -Rob ___ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Cliff Hirsch
Thanks for al the suggestions. Sounds like phpBB is an easy way to go. Vanilla looks interesting too. On 3/8/07 12:51 PM, "Alvaro P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did have that problem on my website, the CAPTCHA, or image > verification, that comes by default doesn't do anything against bots. >

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Shiflett
Rob Marscher wrote: > Absolute path: > http://www.example.org/css/main.css This is more often described as an absolute URL, although it does use an absolute path. > Relative path that will start at whatever comes after your > domain (i.e. it's still relative to the domain): > /css/main.css This

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Allen Shaw
Kenneth Downs wrote: Chris Shiflett wrote: You can still use relative URLs. Just use an absolute path: /css/main.css So both are actually relative, it is more a matter of relative from where? A "relative" path is relative from the complete path of the HTTP request, while an "absolute" path

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Rob Marscher
On Mar 8, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Chris Shiflett wrote: No, an absolute path is different than a relative path. It represents the same path regardless of the location of the current resource. Yeah... just to clarify further: Absolute path: http://www.example.org/css/main.css Relative path that will

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Shiflett
Kenneth Downs wrote: > Chris Shiflett wrote: > > You can still use relative URLs. Just use an absolute path: > > > > /css/main.css > > So both are actually relative, it is more a matter of relative > from where? No, an absolute path is different than a relative path. It represents the same path

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Kenneth Downs
Chris Shiflett wrote: Kenneth Downs wrote: It seems that relative links to CSS and JS all suddenly break. So if you have: www.example.com/friendly/varname/varvalue/varname/varvalue and you have a link to "css/main.css", then it will not be able to find the style sheet anymore. You ca

Re: [nyphp-talk] [ot] Managed Hosting for PHP App.

2007-03-08 Thread Jon Baer
Id agree w/ someone else + say @ least look at EC2 from Amazon ... here is a good podcast on the subject ... http:// www.itconversations.com/shows/detail1728.html The main point of using the service is that when you hit that spot where you say "the customer is out growing the hosting solutio

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Alvaro P.
I did have that problem on my website, the CAPTCHA, or image verification, that comes by default doesn't do anything against bots. I use this extension: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=344831 for the image verification, I haven't had bots since I implemented it. (Yes, humans have regi

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread David Krings
Cliff Hirsch wrote: I want to enter the 21st century and add a forum to my site. My ISP offers phpBB2 and Discuss, a CGI-based forums. Or I can add my own. Does anyone have suggestions regarding a great forum package for a business, not consumer, web site? What about vBulletin, although it lo

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Shiflett
Kenneth Downs wrote: > It seems that relative links to CSS and JS all suddenly break. > So if you have: > > www.example.com/friendly/varname/varvalue/varname/varvalue > > and you have a link to "css/main.css", then it will not be able > to find the style sheet anymore. You can still use relative

Re: [nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Rob Marscher
On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Kenneth Downs wrote: So if you have: www.example.com/friendly/varname/varvalue/varname/varvalue and you have a link to "css/main.css", then it will not be able to find the style sheet anymore. The most common way, I've seen is to keep all your css at www.exam

[nyphp-talk] FW: Conférence PHP Québec 2007 - Free PHP5 Certification!

2007-03-08 Thread Hans Zaunere
All, see note for the conference next week. I'll be speaking as well. If you plan on going, let me know and I'll get you in touch with Damien. Damien Seguy wrote on Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:16 PM: > Hi Hans, > > Just a last and late reminder of the upcoming PHP Québec conference. > Regular

[nyphp-talk] One more question about Friendly URLS

2007-03-08 Thread Kenneth Downs
Last question on friendly URLs. These are very easy to generate and parse, thanks to the tips I've gotten here on NYPHP, but I ran into one very strange detail and I'm sure I'm not the first human being to hit this problem. It seems that relative links to CSS and JS all suddenly break. So if

RE: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Timothy Boyden
I used Mercury Board http://www.mercuryboard.com/ for my site. I tried phpBB2 but had a lot of issues trying to theme it to match my website. Every time I'd go to edit a theme, even so much as to simply change a logo, the whole structure of the board would break down and I'd have to re-install phpB

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Pete Czech - New Possibilities Group, LLC
Hey all, long time lurker... I've had problems keeping bots out of phpbb (have tried all sorts of extensions). vBulletin, no issues. Have they gone after that in version 3? Other than the bots, I like that system much more than vb. Cheers, Pete Czech -- Pete Czech Lead Guru New Possibil

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Alvaro P.
If you don't mind waiting a little, or don't mind it's not officially out, the first Release Candidate of phpBB3 will soon be released. Even the beta 5 version is very stable. You can see it in action here http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/ Alvaro Cliff Hirsch wrote: I want to enter the 21st cen

Re: [nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Brian Dailey
The best I've seen (thus far) is Vanilla. http://getvanilla.com Cliff Hirsch wrote: I want to enter the 21st century and add a forum to my site. My ISP offers phpBB2 and Discuss, a CGI-based forums. Or I can add my own. Does anyone have suggestions regarding a great forum package for a busin

Re: [nyphp-talk] Friendly URL, Ajax, and SEO

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Armendariz
On 3/8/07, Rob Marscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Basically, you have a regular tag link that goes to the location you want, but you also have an onclick javascript event for that link that does the ajax stuff and returns false so that the browser doesn't request the href part of the tag. Ide

[nyphp-talk] Open source forum suggestion

2007-03-08 Thread Cliff Hirsch
I want to enter the 21st century and add a forum to my site. My ISP offers phpBB2 and Discuss, a CGI-based forums. Or I can add my own. Does anyone have suggestions regarding a great forum package for a business, not consumer, web site? What about vBulletin, although it looks like a commercial pr

Re: [nyphp-talk] Friendly URL, Ajax, and SEO

2007-03-08 Thread Rob Marscher
Basically, you have a regular tag link that goes to the location you want, but you also have an onclick javascript event for that link that does the ajax stuff and returns false so that the browser doesn't request the href part of the tag. Ideally, you'll have an onload event to your page

Re: [nyphp-talk] Friendly URL, Ajax, and SEO

2007-03-08 Thread Kenneth Downs
Mark, web searches on "js graceful degradation" and related terms are getting me a lot of blog entries about *whether* to do it, but not much about *how*, can you offer a link that gives the basic howto of putting both kinds of links on the page? Thanks. Mark Armendariz wrote: I like to back

RE: [nyphp-talk] Friendly URL, Ajax, and SEO

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Armendariz
I like to back-load all my ajax on top of already working pages, so for instance I might have: http://www.example.com/news/ And clicking on a headline on that page with js disabled would go to http://www.example.com/news/headline_with_underscores_or_whatever But clicking on it with js enabled wou

[nyphp-talk] Friendly URL, Ajax, and SEO

2007-03-08 Thread Kenneth Downs
Lately I'm wondering about best designs when balancing things like a friendly URL, Ajax, and SEO. It seems there are some contradictory indications. First, friendly URLs are great if for no reason than log analysis. However, friendly URLs are supposedly better for SEO also (besides all the

Re: [nyphp-talk] [ot] Managed Hosting for PHP App.

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Withington
I use pair networks and like them a lot. Not sure whether they are/not super competitive on price; very impressed with their service. If you're a FreeBSD guru (I'm not), then you probably don't want to pay for "service" you don't need. Here's a link to their pricing so you can compare apples-to

Re: [nyphp-talk] [ot] Managed Hosting for PHP App.

2007-03-08 Thread Paul Houle
Anthony wrote: Hi Hans, If I were you, I'd stay away from RackShack. While they appear to be a fairly good company to provide managed hosting, I was told they also are blacklisted by many ISP's for allowing their customers to spam. Right now, we're looking for a hosting solution for a new we