Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread David Krings
On 9/29/2011 6:10 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: Now what Apple does is really up to Apple. I'm guessing they won't follow the heard. And why should they? They made their fortune by leading not following. In which area does Apple lead? Design maybe, but as far as innovation and product ideas are conc

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread David Krings
On 9/29/2011 4:44 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: David: In addition to all that was said about other Languages/Customs having access to the Internet in their own native Languages, let me add there ARE symbols in the English Language. We commonly use math symbols, dingbat characters, grammar, and ot

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Sep 29, 2011, at 5:04 PM, John Campbell wrote: >> This is a problem, but not an unsolvable one. Browsers will support PUNYCODE >> AND be safe eventually. > My guess is that > Safari will become more secure like Chrome/IE/Firefox, not the other > way around. Who knows? I know that the majorit

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Daniel Convissor
Heya: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 04:12:38PM -0400, John Campbell wrote: > > The l in the second paypal is actually a ḷ which is an l with a dot > under it. I could buy that domain and a SSL cert for it And these days, you can even forge an SSL cert says you're the real Paypal and/or use newly work

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread John Campbell
> This is a problem, but not an unsolvable one. Browsers will support PUNYCODE > AND be safe eventually. You are right, that it is more complicated than I initially mentioned, however, chromium has pretty much decided already which way they are going to go. Don't hold your breath waiting for √.c

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Sep 29, 2011, at 4:12 PM, John Campbell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM, John Campbell wrote: >> >>> The problem with puny code is that it is a security nightmare, and no >>> safe browsers are ever going to support it. >>> >>>

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Sep 29, 2011, at 3:44 PM, David Krings wrote: > On 9/29/2011 2:06 PM, John Campbell wrote: >>> Then again, who wants such a URL for a business anyway? Nobody can type that >>> letter on their keyboard and the punycode equivalent isn't really easy to >>> remember or meaningful. Yes, it makes the

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Sep 29, 2011, at 3:44 PM, David Krings wrote: > On 9/29/2011 2:06 PM, John Campbell wrote: >> It is designed for people coming from other languages. Like groupon >> in china is gaopeng.com, but gaopeng is 高朋 when written as characters. >> 高朋.com is http://xn--bpvz66i.com/ in puny code. >> >

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread John Campbell
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM, John Campbell wrote: > >> The problem with puny code is that it is a security nightmare, and no >> safe browsers are ever going to support it. >> >> Can you find the difference between http://paypal.com/ and >

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread David Krings
On 9/29/2011 2:06 PM, John Campbell wrote: Then again, who wants such a URL for a business anyway? Nobody can type that letter on their keyboard and the punycode equivalent isn't really easy to remember or meaningful. Yes, it makes the geek in me smile, but I hardly see any practical purpose for

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Chris Snyder
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM, John Campbell wrote: > The problem with puny code is that it is a security nightmare, and no > safe browsers are ever going to support it. > > Can you find the difference between http://paypal.com/ and > http://paypaḷ.com/ ? > The EV SSL certificate? I don't kno

[nyphp-talk] Making Startups Work: Scaling Survival Stories

2011-09-29 Thread Jorge Lopez
We're (Refinery29) are hosting a set of presentations about scaling at our offices on Tuesday. Check it out: http://msw-scaling.eventbrite.com/ Work at a tech startup? Wondering how you're going to scale to handle millions of users and still stay online? Hear the engineers behind some of the coo

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread John Campbell
> Then again, who wants such a URL for a business anyway? Nobody can type that > letter on their keyboard and the punycode equivalent isn't really easy to > remember or meaningful. Yes, it makes the geek in me smile, but I hardly see > any practical purpose for this. It is designed for people comi

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread David Krings
On 9/29/2011 11:49 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: jerry: How do I deal with the PUNYCODE problem? I live with it hoping that someday M$ (and others) will find a solution to the homographic problem that they envision by showing PUNYCODE instead of showing what the IDNS WG wanted. Cheers, tedd Tri

Re: [nyphp-talk] somewhat OT Re: validating proper name capitalization

2011-09-29 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Sep 27, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: > on 9/27/2011 10:56 AM Rukbat said the following: >> On 9/24/2011 1:51 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: >>> I hope you renamed your company •.com or similar! >> Try http://xn--nvg.com/ (That's punycode for the dot.) > > It's for sale: > http://symbold