Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread B.A.S.
Susan Shemin wrote: I'll add another source which I've posted here before that brings up your programming skills. www.devx.com If you join from their Premier Club into Safari Books for a couple of dollars a month, you can get 5 or 10 computer books depending on your mo

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread Susan Shemin
I'll add another source which I've posted here before that brings up your programming skills. www.devx.com If you join from their Premier Club into Safari Books for a couple of dollars a month, you can get 5 or 10 computer books depending on your monthly fee (and I understand unlimited books,

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread B.A.S.
Adrian Noland wrote: I've always found the articles at IBM developerworks to be gems. They are always succinct and at the same time give you just enough of a taste to keep looking for the complete solution. www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-php-read/

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread B.A.S.
David Mintz wrote: Well, you could take some self-defense classes in addition to all your PHP studies and carry some weapon such as one of those pepper spray things oops, getting OT. Now that you mention it, my PHP Function Reference could be used as a pretty hefty club should I ever fe

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread Adrian Noland
I've always found the articles at IBM developerworks to be gems. They are always succinct and at the same time give you just enough of a taste to keep looking for the complete solution. www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-php-read/ www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/top-projects/php.html

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread David Mintz
On Jan 17, 2008 3:30 PM, B.A.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I hope that when the days get longer and the weather warmer I'll be able > to do exactly that. I live in Orange, NJ, so Manhattan isn't that far, > however the closest NJT station is a local stop and the trains only run > about once

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread B.A.S.
Tim Gales wrote: There are a number of subscribers to this list who are knowledgeable and have projects. One idea is to join a project which uses some technique you want to learn. Chances are good that the developers will help you -- especially when you consider that they already help people wit

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread B.A.S.
Ken Robinson wrote: I would join one of the on-line PHP related forums. I joined the PHPFreaks forum 2.5 years ago and found it very helpful. Thanks. I've visited the site before but not the forum--I'll definitely take a look. What about IDEs? Bec

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread B.A.S.
David Krings wrote: Unfortunately, I still have a really tough time trying to work out the logic of what I want a script to do, and my code is pretty primitive & verbose because of that (I have to painstakingly step through each little bit of logic in order to wrap my head around anything). W

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Gales
B.A.S. wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm trying to move from being a rank beginner to an intermediate level of programming PHP. While practicing & trying to learn something new every day There are a number of subscribers to this list who are knowledgeable and have projects. One idea is to join a pro

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread Ken Robinson
At 08:00 PM 1/16/2008, B.A.S. wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm trying to move from being a rank beginner to an intermediate level of programming PHP. While practicing & trying to learn something new every day, I'm also reading up on security (Essential PHP Security by O'Reilly & Pro PHP Security by Ap

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread David Krings
B.A.S. wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm trying to move from being a rank beginner to an intermediate level of programming PHP. While practicing & trying to learn something new every day, I'm also reading up on security (Essential PHP Security by O'Reilly & Pro PHP Security by Apress). That is never

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread B.A.S.
Ben Sgro wrote: Hello, Yeah +1 on that. Find some stuff that interests you, and dig in. Keep reading of course and in between projects create a sandbox and experiment with new stuff, with the goal that some of that will be used in your next project. Hi Ben, Reading, yes. I keep a copy of th

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread B.A.S.
Brian O'Connor wrote: The best way I learned was just to do something that was relevant. Even today when learning new things, if I am just learning the theory and not actually putting it into place I don't grasp it as well. Make yourself a homepage, and put the things you want on there. Like

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread Ben Sgro
Hello, Yeah +1 on that. Find some stuff that interests you, and dig in. Keep reading of course and in between projects create a sandbox and experiment with new stuff, with the goal that some of that will be used in your next project. Try experimenting with smarty outside a customers applicati

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread Brian O'Connor
The best way I learned was just to do something that was relevant. Even today when learning new things, if I am just learning the theory and not actually putting it into place I don't grasp it as well. Make yourself a homepage, and put the things you want on there. Like sports? Figure out how t

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread B.A.S.
Jake, those are exactly the sort of tips I was looking for--thanks so much for the advice and for wishing me luck. Bev Jake McGraw wrote: Couple of suggestions: 1. Really read the documentation available at php.net, it is the best resource available online. At the very least, go through the t

Re: [nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread Jake McGraw
Couple of suggestions: 1. Really read the documentation available at php.net, it is the best resource available online. At the very least, go through the the Language Reference section (although you can ignore the sections pertaining to PHP4). Additionally, anytime you're doing something with a st

[nyphp-talk] Transitioning from Beginner to Intermediate PHP

2008-01-16 Thread B.A.S.
Hi Everyone, I'm trying to move from being a rank beginner to an intermediate level of programming PHP. While practicing & trying to learn something new every day, I'm also reading up on security (Essential PHP Security by O'Reilly & Pro PHP Security by Apress). Unfortunately, I still have a