Hi Brenda. Sky here. Having a app mall would be amazing! Unfortunately I don't have the skills to set up one, otherwise I would set up a app mall!
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 12:53 PM To: David via Talk Subject: App mall was Re: updated all of my 35 apps The app mall is an excellent idea if there is someone talented and motivated enough to set it up. Back in the day GW encouraged people to make their apps and websites accessible to screen reader users. An app mall would be a good place for them to get info about how to go about it since they can no longer contact GW. Apple has always encouraged app developers to make their apps accessible, so even links to the appropriate Apple webpage would also be a good idea. I am clueless about jaws scripts and do use a few W-e apps and maybe someday will work on learning NVDA. Having jaws and NVDA scripts along with Window-eyes apps in the same place would be very handy for end users too. As for the server, I think it was moved when it disappeared for a while during June +-. Doug said something to the effect that as long as we kept topics relevant VFO would probably keep this server running. But it appears Doug is gone and there is no one to look out for W-e user interests at VFO. Not sure if Aaron Smith is still at VFO - he may be our only hope. Or perhaps a long-shot would be pleading our case with Eric Damery (sp). as a Window-eyes user, I find this list very helpful as I occasionally try to use jaws. I just can't seem to stick with jaws because I think in Window-eyes. At least on my win7 machine things should work fine for a while. I'm keeping emails so if this list does disappear suddenly I will at least be able to contact some folks. If something happens all of a sudden, maybe we could all meet on the Blind Tech list or the jaws list (not sure what the contact info is) or another list someone mentions in response to my email. Brenda On 7/21/2017 3:05 PM, David via Talk wrote: > Unfortunately, seems like this is yet another way they try to push the > final point of WE as quickly as possible. Next thing is, they will > turn down the lists, my guess is. Perhaps the only reason why they > still keep the lists running, and App Central up, is that people > actually make use of them. > > > If now, they will not allow updates to be posted, that would mean > noone would use the App Central, so it is all good to hit the road for > the trash-bin. And, the day too few people are active on the list, > down which road does that take them? :) > > > Or, are they just awaiting the next failure of the server, then all > the sudden just determining that no more service will be done on the > machine, and we are left in the blue. The biggest trouble I find, is > that VFO simply do not care to inform anyone. They sit there till > things have reached a point, then just pull the plug. And if they even > can pull the plug unnoticed, that is their fun. Or, why have we seen > no announcement of the decision not to update apps, anything before. > Too sad, as that will make it very hard for developers to do what they > actually could, to make the screen reader stay up-to-date with the > newest technologies out there. > > > Someone setting up a server, might be a good idea. And first it has to > be done from scratch, why not open a service that would offer users a > cross-platform service. That is, it could hold not only an app store, > but a whole app mall. What I am suggesting is, go to the new app mall, > and here open the link for WinEyes, if that is your screen reader. You > will have the chance to pick and choose from WE apps. Or, if you are a > Jaws user, go to ap mall, open the Jaws link, and choose apps from the > list. Same with NVDA. > > > Sure, no apps are going to show up in all the sections, but if you > compare it with a real mall, you don't get milk in the sportsware > store either, do you. The big benefit of a combined service, would be > that people had ONE place to go, no matter which screen reader they > used. It might even encourage app developers, when they see, and read > about, the different apps for other screen readers. That way, maybe > some developers would be able to come up with more cross-platform like > solutions. Of course, it even could have a subsection for IPhone apps, > or those for Android, that are specialldesigned for visually impaired. > Or, at least, it could hold some reviews of such apps. Further, if > there could be a place for developers to go, and pick up articles and > tutorials for how to build apps under different environments, this > could be yet another way of encouraging more new apps and features to > see the market, under any of the screen readers covered. > > > Thing is, I wonder how long we have to get things going. As the > end-date of the Jaws transmission offer draws near, I have a tiny > feeling we might not see the list servers upp running, all that much > longer. OK, they might be using external servers, but I don't know if > there is a subscription for them to keep renewed, in such a case, > likely it won't be kept alive. > > > If anyone here thinks I am trying to be all negative, let me appologize. > My one and only point was to accept the facts, sad as they are, and > suggest that something else could be done to at least get the best out > of the existing situation. > > > On 7/21/2017 7:50 PM, Jeff Weiss via Talk wrote: >> I would certainly be interested in such a thing if somebody could set >> it up. >> I am thinking of a Window-eyes app page which is privately run. It >> could be an app repository, or it might include more things, like a >> new Window-eyes list, etc. >> Jeff Weiss >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: John Farley >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:18 AM >> To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> Dear Jeff, >> >> Some of us do intend to use Window-Eyes as long as it is viable. >> >> Would it be possible to place your updated apps on a public folder >> somewhere where we could still access them? >> >> >> >> Regards, John >> >> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:08 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Fw: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> I just wrote to wesupp...@aisquared.com about updating all of my 35 >> apps. From the response I just received, no more updates to app >> central will be allowed. >> Even while the web site is active, this seems to be just an >> unnecessary termination of services which all of the current >> Window-Eyes users are using. >> I already posted all of the updates a week ago, but aparently no more >> updates will be approved. >> Jeff Weiss >> >> >> >> From: Bryan Carver >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:55 AM >> To: 'Jeff Weiss' ; wesupp...@aisquared.com >> Subject: RE: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> Hi Jeff, >> >> I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but we will unfortunately >> not be posting any further updates for apps. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Bryan Carver JAWS & MAGic Certified >> >> VFO | Director Technical Support >> >> 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 >> >> T 800-444-4443 Ext 1026 >> >> bcar...@vfogroup.com >> >> www.vfogroup.com >> >> How am I doing? Let >> >> Ruth Lutes, VP of Customer Success and Quality know! >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net] >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:50 AM >> To: wesupp...@aisquared.com >> Subject: Re: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> >> >> I am writing to see if there is a problem with updating my >> Window-Eyes apps on App Central. It s been several days, and I have >> not heard anything nor have I seen the updated apps come out. I >> updated all of the 35 apps below so that any error messages will come >> to my home address since I am now retired. Please allow these updates >> to be posted, or let me know if there is some problem. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff Weiss >> >> jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jeff Weiss >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 9:42 PM >> >> To: wesupp...@aisquared.com >> >> Subject: updated all of my 35 apps >> >> >> >> I just realized that I had my app error messages coming to work. >> >> Since I am now retired, I updated all of the error messages to come >> to my home email address. >> >> The list of apps and their newly changed versions are as follows: >> >> >> >> AppsActive >> >> version 2.3 >> >> >> >> AssertiveChristian >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> BrailleQuiz >> >> Version 1.7 >> >> >> >> BrowseModeStatus >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> Celebrate >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> Christmas >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> DailyBlessings >> >> version 2.0 >> >> >> >> DailyProverbs >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> Daily Psalms >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> EasterBlessing >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> ErrorList >> >> version 1.7 >> >> >> >> FreeSpace >> >> version 1.8 >> >> >> >> GivingThanks >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> GodsValentine >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> Happiness >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> HushNow >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> LunarLander >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> MissionImpossible >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> MusicMenu >> >> Version 1.6 >> >> >> >> OutlookSaveAllAttachments >> >> version 1.3 >> >> >> >> PlayBack >> >> version 1.6 >> >> >> >> PrayerForTheDay >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> PrimeNumbers >> >> version 1.2 >> >> >> >> PromisesOfGod >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> RefreshSets >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> RomanNumerals >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> ScriptComments >> >> version 1.1 >> >> >> >> Spelling Practice >> >> Version 1.1 >> >> >> >> SpellingTest >> >> version 1.7 >> >> >> >> StatesGame >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> TextToClip >> >> version 1.8 >> >> >> >> TwelveGifts >> >> version 1.4 >> >> >> >> WEHotkeys >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> WEPMInfo >> >> version 1.5 >> >> >> >> WordScramble >> >> version 1.7 >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff Weiss >> >> jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40btinternet.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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