I don't have any thoughts about your WE speaking strangely; I'm not having that problem.
I would love it if AI Squared could help Panda make their product more accessible. There are two flaw in your accessibility argument, Brandon. The first is that accessibility isn't a subjective term. I've tested websites, courses and various applications for accessibility/usability at work for more than 30 years, and for me there's no subjectivity about it. There are technical standards app makers need to follow to make their apps "accessible" to the disabled. There are the technical "accessibility" standards, and then there's "usability". My bottom line is: if I can, as a user, through using keyboard shortcuts, navigation, etc, do the same things as a sighted user can with a program, then it's accessible and usable. If I can't, or if it's substantially more difficult, then the app isn't accessible. That's the second flaw in your logic. Panda may be the greatest virus program out there, but if I, as a blind person, can't use its features, what good is it to me? Nod-32 may not be the best program, but at least it's relatively accessible. From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+realman02=verizon....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Miller via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:16 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Window-eyes babbling, and some succinct advice on security solutions Ok y'all, if this has already been addressed then I apologize, and you're welcome to just send me the link to where and I'll take it from there. The thing I'm experiencing for some strange reason is this. I've just recently (as in two days ago) installed a brand spankin' new copy of Wineyes 9.2.1 on my Windows 7 64-bit home premium machine. Now, window-eyes is just speaking in a generally odd and confusing manner. For instance, I encountered while navigating around the web last night your standard, average, ordinary, nothing special whatsoever, run of the mill radio button on a webpage. However, instead of saying radio button like normal, Window-eyes now announces, retina input button, each time I encounter a radio button. I notice this specifically when working with startpage.com's settings page. Thoughts? Window-eyes also strangely announces, CloudBg at the extreme top of that page, which is also new. I've never heard it do that before. Thoughts? Oh one last thing, you know the like, button on facebook? That has started speaking really strangely these days too. Thoughts? Now to my online security blurb. In short, accessibility of an app has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with how well an app will or won't protect/defend your data. Accessibility is just a subjective designation commonly used when describing whether a disabled person can, or cannot, generally speaking, navigate with and use something as originally intended. If a disabled person is able to do those things independently, then the app generally ends up getting called accessible. If on the other hand a disabled person is unable to do those things, then the app generally ends up getting called inaccessible, no matter how well it may yet perform in actuality. Case and point, I just emailed Panda Security yesterday to see if they'd get in touch with Ai Squared to get some guidance from Ai Squared on what steps Panda Security could take programmatically to make their products more accessible. That said, go and read the write ups and reviews for Panda antivirus for yourself, and it should almost immediately become clear to you that Panda Security is at the very least, one heck of a contender, if not the top one outside of the big box big brand name security software venders. Bottom line? I would absolutely ditch Microsoft's so called Security Essentials because while the app is without a doubt accessible, it is not secure, and it is most definitely not, essential! For years now Ai Squared has been recommending Nod32, and while it seems pretty mediocre to me as far as protection/defense, almost anything you could install would trump Microsoft security essentials and that's the honest truth. Thoughts? Respectfully submitted, Brandon Dean Miller On 10/16/2015 2:30 PM, via Talk wrote: > Send Talk mailing list submissions to > talk@lists.window-eyes.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ow...@lists.window-eyes.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Oh, the noises of technology! WE update (Jo Taliaferro via Talk) > 2. Re: which Eudora file (Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk) > 3. 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