RE: stability versus new browse mode

2015-09-16 Thread Josh Rivera via Talk 
Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.


 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

Hi Louis:

They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to
press control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up
again.

Kevin Huber
On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk  wrote:
> Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this business
> of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention ctrl-Alt-w as the
> touted
> cure, but no one is saying that you must first shut Win-Eyes down with
> CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing some time for things to take
> effect,
> and hopefully hearing the descending harp stroke sound, then you do the
> Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my experience, though, if you don't hear the
> descending harp sound, the Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, the
> pressing of the powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly
> restoring speech before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish
> there were some way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.
>
> Louis Gosselin
>
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> On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: stability versus new browse mode
>
> Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I had
to
> reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't characterize
the
> stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this problem
> is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.
>
> Butch
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Re: kill wineyes command line

2015-09-16 Thread Loy via Talk 
You can just hit the windows key and type wineyes hit enter and this will 
also kill and restart Window Eyes 9.2..
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:27 PM
Subject: kill wineyes command line



a batch file works almost every time. but it only kills w e it does not
reload it.
use the path to the wineyes.exe file with the command line /k
keep the quotes.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe" /k


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From: Josh Rivera via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:18 AM
To: 'Kevin Huber' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: stability versus new browse mode

Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.



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Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:57 AM
To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

Hi Louis:

They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to
press control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up
again.

Kevin Huber
On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk  wrote:
Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this 
business

of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention ctrl-Alt-w as the
touted
cure, but no one is saying that you must first shut Win-Eyes down with
CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing some time for things to take
effect,
and hopefully hearing the descending harp stroke sound, then you do the
Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my experience, though, if you don't hear the
descending harp sound, the Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, 
the

pressing of the powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly
restoring speech before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish
there were some way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.

Louis Gosselin

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On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: stability versus new browse mode

Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I had

to

reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't characterize

the
stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this 
problem

is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.

Butch

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kill wineyes command line

2015-09-16 Thread net bat via Talk 

a batch file works almost every time. but it only kills w e it does not
reload it.
use the path to the wineyes.exe file with the command line /k
keep the quotes.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe" /k


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Rivera via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:18 AM
To: 'Kevin Huber' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: stability versus new browse mode

Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:57 AM
To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

Hi Louis:

They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to
press control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up
again.

Kevin Huber
On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk  wrote:

Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this business
of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention ctrl-Alt-w as the
touted
cure, but no one is saying that you must first shut Win-Eyes down with
CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing some time for things to take
effect,
and hopefully hearing the descending harp stroke sound, then you do the
Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my experience, though, if you don't hear the
descending harp sound, the Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, the
pressing of the powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly
restoring speech before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish
there were some way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.

Louis Gosselin

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From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: stability versus new browse mode

Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I had

to

reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't characterize

the

stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this problem
is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.

Butch

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RE: stability versus new browse mode

2015-09-16 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk 
Then press windows-r and type wineyes and press enter.

If the hot key doesn't work, that will. If it doesn't work then the 
alt-control-w wouldn't have worked anyway.
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-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Josh Rivera via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:19 AM
To: 'Kevin Huber' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: stability versus new browse mode

Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.


 
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:57 AM
To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

Hi Louis:

They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to press 
control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up again.

Kevin Huber
On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk  wrote:
> Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this 
> business of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention 
> ctrl-Alt-w as the touted cure, but no one is saying that you must 
> first shut Win-Eyes down with CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing 
> some time for things to take effect, and hopefully hearing the 
> descending harp stroke sound, then you do the Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my 
> experience, though, if you don't hear the descending harp sound, the 
> Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, the pressing of the 
> powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly restoring speech 
> before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish there were some 
> way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.
>
> Louis Gosselin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint.net@lists.window-eyes.
> com]
> On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: stability versus new browse mode
>
> Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I 
> had
to
> reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't 
> characterize
the
> stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this 
> problem is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.
>
> Butch
>
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Re: stability versus new browse mode

2015-09-16 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk 
Hi Louis:

True, but I suppose that that is why some people fail to  mention the
extra step of closing Window-eyes.  They forget that not everybody has
the latest version.

Kevin Huber

On 9/16/15, Josh Rivera  wrote:
> Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:57 AM
> To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode
>
> Hi Louis:
>
> They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to
> press control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up
> again.
>
> Kevin Huber
> On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk  wrote:
>> Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this
>> business
>> of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention ctrl-Alt-w as the
>> touted
>> cure, but no one is saying that you must first shut Win-Eyes down with
>> CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing some time for things to take
>> effect,
>> and hopefully hearing the descending harp stroke sound, then you do the
>> Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my experience, though, if you don't hear the
>> descending harp sound, the Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately,
>> the
>> pressing of the powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly
>> restoring speech before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish
>> there were some way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.
>>
>> Louis Gosselin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: stability versus new browse mode
>>
>> Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I had
> to
>> reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't characterize
> the
>> stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this
>> problem
>> is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.
>>
>> Butch
>>
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Re: tutorials

2015-09-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk 

what do you want to know about thunderbird?

On 9/16/2015 12:39 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote:

Hello,
Does anybody know of a current or an upcoming tutorial on windows 10 
and windoweyes 9.2 and Thunderbird.  They're all new to me and I have 
some questions about both.   GWMICRO has a great two part one but it 
is five years old and old versions which have changed a lot in five 
years. Thanks.

Bud
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thunberbird questions.

2015-09-16 Thread Brian Moore via Talk 
HI.  I am happy to answer any tb questions as well.  use it pretty much 
all day every day so have figured out most of it.  Still can't find an 
easy keybard way of sorting column headers but this has been an open bug 
in mozilla's tracker for a long time.



On 09/16/2015 1:46 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:

what do you want to know about thunderbird?

On 9/16/2015 12:39 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk wrote:

Hello,
Does anybody know of a current or an upcoming tutorial on windows 10 
and windoweyes 9.2 and Thunderbird.  They're all new to me and I have 
some questions about both.   GWMICRO has a great two part one but it 
is five years old and old versions which have changed a lot in five 
years. Thanks.

Bud
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Prompts in Web Pages

2015-09-16 Thread Barbara via Talk 
Hello Everyone,

I am using IE 11 and Window-Eyes 9.2.

When I go to some web pages, I get prompts.  An example might be a prompt to
ask if I want IE to save a password. I would hear press alt-y for yes and
alt-n for no.  I do not seem to be able to access this correctly.  I know if
there is a notification bar, I can press alt-n to access it.  However
pressing alt-n in this situation gets me nothing.  The web site ignores
whatever I press and goes on to the web page.  I will get the same prompt
the next time I visit the same page.

Another similar situation is a prompt for unsecure sections of a web page.
I will hear press alt-a to allow and I think it says alt-n  for not.  Same
issue here.

I think both of these situations have more options, but I think you get what
I am trying to ask here.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara
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Re: stability versus new browse mode

2015-09-16 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
It wasn't mentioned because you don't have to do it anymore, just the 
control alt w.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: gosselin_louis via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:39 AM
To: 'Butch K' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: stability versus new browse mode

Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this business
of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention ctrl-Alt-w as the touted
cure, but no one is saying that you must first shut Win-Eyes down with
CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing some time for things to take effect,
and hopefully hearing the descending harp stroke sound, then you do the
Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my experience, though, if you don't hear the
descending harp sound, the Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, the
pressing of the powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly
restoring speech before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish
there were some way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.

Louis Gosselin

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On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
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Subject: stability versus new browse mode

Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I had to
reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't characterize the
stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this problem
is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.

Butch

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Re: stability versus new browse mode

2015-09-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk 
the only thing is this if everything is frozen then you would not be 
able to do either alt control w or windows key r and the windoweyes and 
enter, so really this is still a window eyes issue.


On 9/16/2015 1:25 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

Then press windows-r and type wineyes and press enter.

If the hot key doesn't work, that will. If it doesn't work then the 
alt-control-w wouldn't have worked anyway.
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Josh Rivera via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:19 AM
To: 'Kevin Huber' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: stability versus new browse mode

Only problem is, for many of us, that combination doesn't work.


  
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Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:57 AM
To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: stability versus new browse mode

Hi Louis:

They have added a feature in Window-eyes 9.1 which allows you to press 
control-alt-w and Window-eyes will shut down and then start up again.

Kevin Huber
On 9/15/15, gosselin_louis via Talk  wrote:

Lately it seems that every time someone makes a reference to this
business of losing speech with Win-Eyes, they always mention
ctrl-Alt-w as the touted cure, but no one is saying that you must
first shut Win-Eyes down with CtrlInsert-F4, and then, after allowing
some time for things to take effect, and hopefully hearing the
descending harp stroke sound, then you do the Ctrl-Alt-W thing.  In my
experience, though, if you don't hear the descending harp sound, the
Ctrl-Alt-W wont work, either.  Fortunately, the pressing of the
powerbutton briefly always does work, even to briefly restoring speech
before it insists on shutting the computer down.  Wish there were some
way to halt the powerbutton shut-down at that point.

Louis Gosselin

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com]
On Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:08 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: stability versus new browse mode

Bob, as I mentioned in my first post, control, alt, W did nothing. I
had

to

reboot everytime. Also, based on my experience, I wouldn't
characterize

the

stability problem as "small." However, I am glad to hear that this
problem is being looked at. That offers some hope. Thanks.

Butch

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tutorials

2015-09-16 Thread Bud Schwab via Talk 

Hello,
Does anybody know of a current or an upcoming tutorial on windows 10 and 
windoweyes 9.2 and Thunderbird.  They're all new to me and I have some 
questions about both.   GWMICRO has a great two part one but it is five 
years old and old versions which have changed a lot in five years. Thanks.

Bud
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