Re: Window-Eyes error messages

[Ian Westerland via Talk]

Thank you Tom.  I hadn't started looking for solutions as yet so I'll be 
following your ideas first up. i'll let you know the results.


Cheers.


Ian






On 9/14/2017 1:14 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Ian,

Here's what I would do.
Open the Window-Eyes control panel.
Alt-A Apps.
D Diagnostics.
Refresh accessibility libraries.
Reboot when prompted.

If that doesn't solve your problem go back into Diagnostics and run 
Repair Windows 10 display driver.


Hth,
Tom


On 9/13/2017 10:19 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:




Tom, sorry, I don't have the Windows 10 Pro, just the version 
automatically downloaded.




On 9/14/2017 10:20 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

What error messages are you getting?
I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators 
update and haven't seen any.


Regards,
Tom


On 9/13/2017 5:21 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:
Hello everyone.  I am noticing many more error messages when 
Window=Eyes opens.  This does not seem to be associatedd with 
anything in particular.  The same response reports are still there 
so, even though I know there won't be a response, I am still sending 
them.
Of course, this is going to happen with a lack of support and is 
therefore expected.


Window-Eyes still functions so I continue to use it.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland



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Re: Apps that can be uninstalled

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I agree with what you're saying, David, but with one exception.

I have always kept my apps to an absolute minimum and run very few. But 
the WE Diag app does have it uses beyond sending reports.


It has the ability to refresh accessibility libraries and repair the 
Windows 10 display driver. And these were the first things I thought of 
when I read Ian's message.


Regards,
Tom


On 9/13/2017 9:06 PM, David via Talk wrote:

Just wanted to remind you, that not all apps developed for WinEyes, are
beneficial any longer.

Though an app in general should simply just close down, once it cannot
perform its activity, you might eventually see some apps that could
cause you issues. I recently went through my installed apps, and among
them found a couple of apps that clearly never will be of any more usage.

WE Diag.
This app was designed to generate a diagnostic report, that could be
sent to the GW team, for troubleshooting.
Since there is no more team to receive the diagnostics report, there
will never be any usage of generating such a report.
The app further does consume at least one hotkey, which rather could be
used for your convenience with other apps and features, or third-party
software on your computer.

WEUpdate.
This app will check for updates to Window-Eyes itself.
There NEVER will be any updates, or new versions. The app will attempt
to connect to the GW servers, every time you start your screen reader,
and who knows how much more frequently. It will generally not pose any
problem to you, since it simply will receive the message from the
server, that no new updates are to be found, and then close itself down.
Yet, as the servers of WinEyes might not stay up forever, who knows what
error messages it will generate in the coming.
The app is to be viewed as useless, obsolete, and might as well be removed.

Though apps might not take up any extensive space on your computer, and
might pose no current trouble in running, I do not generally suggest you
let useless or obsolete software run on your system. It is not likely
that any of the WE apps might pose real risks in lingering on your
computer, but really, why leave them there - all the time they never
will kick into any benefit for you. Even, someone might eventually hack
the code, and misuse the door you leave open.

How To Uninstall.
Open the WE Control Panel, by hitting Ctrl-Backslash.
Press Alt-A, to go to the App menu.
Choose App Management.
Scroll down to Add/Remove Apps, and hit Enter.
In the list of installed apps, scroll to the unwanted app, and then tab
over to Remove, and hit Enter.
Shift-Tab back to the list, and repeat the remove process for any app
you do not want any longer.
First you are at it, make sure to get rid of apps that are known to be
troublesome, like the Jaws Emulating app.
When done, exit, and make a copy of your working WinEyes Profile, saving
it on a memory stick or the like. It will come in handy, should you ever
want or need to reinstall your screen reader.

There might be other apps, which you would no longer benefit from.If
anyone feels there are apps that I have overlooked, and which never will
be operational again, maybe you want to share with the list members.


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Re: Window-Eyes error messages

[Ian Westerland via Talk]

Hello Tom.  When I click on the "details" button there is often nothing 
under the details button.  Other times saying that a problem occurred 
during start up preventing Window-Eyes from working.


I am using the latest Window-Eyes and Windows 10, exactly the same 
system you are using.


I mentioned the error messages because they are only recent, last 2 
weeks or so.


Cheers.


Ian





On 9/14/2017 10:20 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

What error messages are you getting?
I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators 
update and haven't seen any.


Regards,
Tom


On 9/13/2017 5:21 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:
Hello everyone.  I am noticing many more error messages when 
Window=Eyes opens.  This does not seem to be associatedd with anything 
in particular.  The same response reports are still there so, even 
though I know there won't be a response, I am still sending them.
Of course, this is going to happen with a lack of support and is 
therefore expected.


Window-Eyes still functions so I continue to use it.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland



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Re: Window-Eyes error messages

[Ian Westerland via Talk]

Tom, sorry, I don't have the Windows 10 Pro, just the version 
automatically downloaded.




On 9/14/2017 10:20 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

What error messages are you getting?
I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators 
update and haven't seen any.


Regards,
Tom


On 9/13/2017 5:21 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:
Hello everyone.  I am noticing many more error messages when 
Window=Eyes opens.  This does not seem to be associatedd with anything 
in particular.  The same response reports are still there so, even 
though I know there won't be a response, I am still sending them.
Of course, this is going to happen with a lack of support and is 
therefore expected.


Window-Eyes still functions so I continue to use it.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland



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Apps that can be uninstalled

[David via Talk]

Just wanted to remind you, that not all apps developed for WinEyes, are 
beneficial any longer.

Though an app in general should simply just close down, once it cannot 
perform its activity, you might eventually see some apps that could 
cause you issues. I recently went through my installed apps, and among 
them found a couple of apps that clearly never will be of any more usage.

WE Diag.
This app was designed to generate a diagnostic report, that could be 
sent to the GW team, for troubleshooting.
Since there is no more team to receive the diagnostics report, there 
will never be any usage of generating such a report.
The app further does consume at least one hotkey, which rather could be 
used for your convenience with other apps and features, or third-party 
software on your computer.

WEUpdate.
This app will check for updates to Window-Eyes itself.
There NEVER will be any updates, or new versions. The app will attempt 
to connect to the GW servers, every time you start your screen reader, 
and who knows how much more frequently. It will generally not pose any 
problem to you, since it simply will receive the message from the 
server, that no new updates are to be found, and then close itself down. 
Yet, as the servers of WinEyes might not stay up forever, who knows what 
error messages it will generate in the coming.
The app is to be viewed as useless, obsolete, and might as well be removed.

Though apps might not take up any extensive space on your computer, and 
might pose no current trouble in running, I do not generally suggest you 
let useless or obsolete software run on your system. It is not likely 
that any of the WE apps might pose real risks in lingering on your 
computer, but really, why leave them there - all the time they never 
will kick into any benefit for you. Even, someone might eventually hack 
the code, and misuse the door you leave open.

How To Uninstall.
Open the WE Control Panel, by hitting Ctrl-Backslash.
Press Alt-A, to go to the App menu.
Choose App Management.
Scroll down to Add/Remove Apps, and hit Enter.
In the list of installed apps, scroll to the unwanted app, and then tab 
over to Remove, and hit Enter.
Shift-Tab back to the list, and repeat the remove process for any app 
you do not want any longer.
First you are at it, make sure to get rid of apps that are known to be 
troublesome, like the Jaws Emulating app.
When done, exit, and make a copy of your working WinEyes Profile, saving 
it on a memory stick or the like. It will come in handy, should you ever 
want or need to reinstall your screen reader.

There might be other apps, which you would no longer benefit from.If 
anyone feels there are apps that I have overlooked, and which never will 
be operational again, maybe you want to share with the list members.

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Re: Window-Eyes error messages

[David via Talk]

Besides, sending error reports, is nothing but useless.


the error reports that would go to the developing team of the screen 
reader, will likely end up in a non-attended mailbox, and all your 
efforts are good for nothing.


The error reporting system for apps that generate an error report, has 
long been known to have issues. I have NEVER got any reports from users, 
who used the built-in reporting system, whenever my apps generated any 
errors. It was called to GW's attention a few times, but they never got 
it fully sorted. And the servers for forwarding the reports to the app 
developer, might not necessarily be all that operative any longer.


My best advice, would be to ignore all error reporting, and turn off any 
such feature. Should you encounter error messages, please report them on 
the list, and chances are that someone here has a fix for you.


Even if you don't fill in any extra comments on the error report, simply 
just sending it, does generate net traffic, and will benefit NOONE.



On 9/14/2017 2:20 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> What error messages are you getting?
> I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators 
> update and haven't seen any.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 9/13/2017 5:21 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:
>> Hello everyone.  I am noticing many more error messages when 
>> Window=Eyes opens.  This does not seem to be associatedd with 
>> anything in particular.  The same response reports are still there 
>> so, even though I know there won't be a response, I am still sending 
>> them.
>> Of course, this is going to happen with a lack of support and is 
>> therefore expected.
>>
>> Window-Eyes still functions so I continue to use it.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> Ian Westerland
>>
>>
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Re: Window-Eyes error messages

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

What error messages are you getting?
I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators 
update and haven't seen any.


Regards,
Tom


On 9/13/2017 5:21 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote:
Hello everyone.  I am noticing many more error messages when Window=Eyes 
opens.  This does not seem to be associatedd with anything in 
particular.  The same response reports are still there so, even though I 
know there won't be a response, I am still sending them.
Of course, this is going to happen with a lack of support and is 
therefore expected.


Window-Eyes still functions so I continue to use it.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland



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Window-Eyes error messages

[Ian Westerland via Talk]

Hello everyone.  I am noticing many more error messages when Window=Eyes 
opens.  This does not seem to be associatedd with anything in 
particular.  The same response reports are still there so, even though I 
know there won't be a response, I am still sending them.
Of course, this is going to happen with a lack of support and is 
therefore expected.


Window-Eyes still functions so I continue to use it.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland



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Re: MICROSOFT WORD TYPEOVER?

[David via Talk]

Not sure I understand your query correct. But If you have a Word 
document, with a line of underlines, or maybe dots, where you want to 
fill in say your name and address or the like. Yes, that is fully possible.

1. place your cursor at the first of the characters you want replaced, 
like the first underline character.
2. Hit the bypas (Insert-B), followed by only the Insert-key. WinEyes 
will announce "Overwrite".
3. Type in your information. The underline characters will be 
overwritten, or replaced, with the characters you type in.
. Again, hit the Insert-B, followed by only Insert, and WinEyes will 
announce you have gone back to "insert" mode; which is the default mode.

Have filled in several forms in Word 2007, this way, and never heard any 
complaint they would be anything but readable.

Hope I understood, and managed to answer, your query. If not, my apologize.


David

On 9/13/2017 12:48 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk 
wrote:
 > Hello All:
 >
 >
 > Ok, I am constantly behind the times; guess I'll keep up in my next 
life!
 >
 > Running Office 2007 and using Window-Eyes 9.5.4:  How do I invoke 
TypeOver?
 > Second, when TypeOver is invoked, does it erase whatever is being typed
 > over?  Example:  There are a series of UNDERLINE characters; I would 
like to
 > see these characters disappear and replaced with whatever I type in their
 > place.  Is what I'm thinking of even a possibility?
 >
 > Reason for enquiry?  I'm editing some business-related legal forms 
and want
 > to keep them as neat as possible.  Much thanks for all help!
 >
 > Sincerely,
 > Olusegun
 > Denver, Colorado
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Re: webaim screen reader survey

[Josh Kennedy via Talk]

yes the survey is accessible. it works perfectly fine.



On 9/12/2017 11:17 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo via Talk wrote:

the servay is not accessibilible call 301-388-0136 I nnneed to do it
over thwe telephone

On 9/12/17, Josh Kennedy via Talk  wrote:

http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/




On 9/12/2017 6:49 PM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo via Talk wrote:

I need the link 2the servay

On 9/12/17, Josh Kennedy via Talk  wrote:

hi

the new webaim screen reader survey is out if you want to take it.


http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/



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MICROSOFT WORD TYPEOVER?

[Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk]

Hello All:


Ok, I am constantly behind the times; guess I'll keep up in my next life!  

Running Office 2007 and using Window-Eyes 9.5.4:  How do I invoke TypeOver?
Second, when TypeOver is invoked, does it erase whatever is being typed
over?  Example:  There are a series of UNDERLINE characters; I would like to
see these characters disappear and replaced with whatever I type in their
place.  Is what I'm thinking of even a possibility?

Reason for enquiry?  I'm editing some business-related legal forms and want
to keep them as neat as possible.  Much thanks for all help!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado  


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