Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

[David via Talk]

Guess you are not lonely on the isle of wishing for more stability, like 
in the older days, when comes to electronics. As a matter of fact, many 
sighted people feel the same way. All the continious updates to Windows 
and software, do affect EVERYONE - not only visually impaired.


As for Apple products, I have never even tried them, so cannot advice 
anything on that field. Still, you will want to go through your actual 
needs. For my part, one reason why I have never bothered the Apple 
products, is that certain of the software I am relying on, only runs 
under Windows. Getting a Mac would mean for me to stop using such 
software, and the disadvantage thereof seems higher than the gains of a 
bit more stability on the computer. Sure, I do know there exists ways of 
running a Mac with Windows, but you then still will have to face the 
many updates, I guess.


Further, be aware that not all Windows periphals might have drivers for 
Mac. Such as your printer. Though Apple might have 24/7 assistance - 
over the phone or whatever - you will have to rely on it. A Windows 
machine is similar to what your friends and colleagues run, and getting 
help with things directly on-site, might prove easier. All depend on 
your situation, and your location. If for instance you lived in a place 
with no Apple store, and you had to pay for transportation every time 
you had to take your device to the store, so as to benefit from the 
special service you described, it could soon enough prove to be a 
troublesome solution; even if the assistance itself would claim to be 
free-of-charge. Compare it with having someone over for a cup of coffee 
and let them fix your issue. Again, it depend on what situation you are 
in. What need you have for assistance, what software you plan on using, 
and what other equipment you already have that might or moight not be 
compatible.


Keep in mind, that even Apple products receive updates. Probably not 
that often, and perhaps not all that overturning in new layouts and so 
forth. But Apple land likely have its own challenges. Sure, they have a 
number of voices included in their products. But do these voices fit 
you? What about special terms, linked to your profession - will they be 
able to pronounce them correctly? Or, will they have optimal 
pronunciation dictionary capabilities, enough for you to taylor them to 
a bearable level? Otherwise a day in office might prove to be a true 
nightmare, sitting there listening to extremely badly pronounced special 
terms. I do have one locale voice on my computer here, manufactured by 
Vocalizer. It sounds very nice, clear and OK natural. Yet no matter how 
hard I try - with whichever screen reader or dictionary - it simply 
cannot be made to pronounce certain words correctly. And believe me, it 
becomes a real stressful experience over time. It even sometimes 
pronounce things such badly, that it causes misunderstandings. Since I 
have never used an Apple product, I could not tell what is the case on 
their screen reader voices. But you might want to do some research, as 
to what voices might be available, even for later purchase and installing.


Many have chosen to use software that no longer is installed all on your 
local computer, but rather based on Online services. In some cases that 
might solve part of your learning curve, since they might be similarly 
working, whether you use Linux, Windows, Apple, or even Android based 
equipment. That is what we name cross-platform services. Yet, other 
software, even if they run off the net, might be quite different, from 
one platform to the other.


One thing to keep in mind, is that the cross-platform services, will be 
updated just as often for all platforms. Let's take a thing like Firefox 
(and I just picked it out of the air, purely for samplification). If 
they decide to update, they will update the cross-platform software. 
This means, whether you run Mac, Android or Windows, you still will have 
to face the changes made in the new version. In certain cases, this 
could end up meaning that you have spent loads of money, and 
considerable resources on learning a new computer, only to ind that what 
you use your computer for, all is going to be just as often updated and 
changed, as the one you were running away from.Stary nights come in the 
jungle, just like in the Prairies.


As to what extent you should choose the one system over the other, I do 
not have the expertise, let alone the urge to start arguing. I simply 
want to point out, that you will be changing environment, and have to 
make sure you know what you are doing; and even then, you might only 
change side so much. Spend your time wisely. And hard as it is to let 
you know, we all have to face the fact that things do change. Even 
faster and faster. And the impaired will only fall behind all the more. 
Personally I have decided to go with what I have, even if my computer 
has been running for several years, and is still on 

Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

[Tony C via Talk]

Hi, I'm not sure yet, probally a desktop. I don't need a lap top and I have 
my current Windows 10 desktop hooked to my HD tv VIA HDMI cable. I don't 
even have cable tv because I use streaming on the net for 95% of my tv 
watching. I have my I phone and my GF has an Ipad for when we travel.


-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:49 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Paulette Vickery
Subject: RE: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Hi Tony,

What kind of a Mac or you thinking about purchasing?

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Hi, My next computer purchase will be a Mac. I stopped using Jaws back in
2003 and used Window eyes till forced to revert to Jaws. I don't like the
company assoiated with it.

-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Paulette Vickery
Subject: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Hi all,



I don't know about you, but I am just getting tired of it and want a
complete change. I am tired of having to change screen readers every so
often. I am tired of continually having to learn new and so called improved
Windows programs and Windows updates. I am tired of wondering, worrying and
waiting for the next change and inevitable scramble to keep up by the blind
in the computer world.



So now, I am considering taking a leap of what ever you care to call it and
try using an Apple laptop, specifically, the Mac Book Air. I know there is a
steep learning curve, but I must say that there is a lot of support
available.

For example, every Apple store is supposed to have on site training on all
Apple devices for people with disabilities, including blind people. I know
that the store here in Louisville has such training.

The Apple Care for people with disabilities is available over the phone 24
hours a day, 7 days a week. That is more than there regular Apple Care.

The Apple Mac has a built in screen reader with different voices at no extra
cost installed on each device they make. There is also a short tutorial for
how to use Voice Over, the Apple voice and it's software, also at no extra
cost, included on each device.

I know that it has nothing to do with how it works, but the outer case of
the laptop is metal and has an apple, complete with 2 leaves and a bite
taken from the apple, as the logo which I can touch easily.



Has anyone else thought about using, or has used an Apple mac laptop? If so
what did or do you think about the Mac?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.



Paulette

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Re: JAWS question

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there!

You know you can still use the old fashion way, placing the highlighting 
on the first letter holding down the shift key pressing the desired 
arrow key and the pressing CTRL+C to copy and then you can simply paste 
it anywhere you wish with the CTRL+V.  Just thought I would let you know 
that the old fassion way still works fine with Jaws , Narator or NVDA.  
Catch Ya Later de


.


On 23-May-18 23:13, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote:

And, 400 keystrokes to boot to get a simple task done; here's an example of
such task:

With Window-Eyes, selecting a long passage or even a short one involves a
press of the F8 key.  When the desired text has been selected, press F8
again and choose between copying the selected text with all formatting
retained, or simply copying to the Clipboard with Alt-C.

Now, let's do the same task using Jaws:

1.  Start with a press of Control-Windows-K to set a place marker
2.  Next, select all the text you wish to copy and pray that it selects
everything without a hitch
3.  Now, with your preferred text selected, press Insert-Space, then M
4.  One gets to know that the entire text has been selected
5.  Now, press Control-C to Copy the selected text to the Clipboard.

'Ouch, why is a simple task so complicated?  Ask Jaws and good luck if you
get an answer!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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RE: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Hi Tony,

What kind of a Mac or you thinking about purchasing?

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tony C
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Hi, My next computer purchase will be a Mac. I stopped using Jaws back in 
2003 and used Window eyes till forced to revert to Jaws. I don't like the 
company assoiated with it.

-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Paulette Vickery
Subject: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Hi all,



I don't know about you, but I am just getting tired of it and want a
complete change. I am tired of having to change screen readers every so
often. I am tired of continually having to learn new and so called improved
Windows programs and Windows updates. I am tired of wondering, worrying and
waiting for the next change and inevitable scramble to keep up by the blind
in the computer world.



So now, I am considering taking a leap of what ever you care to call it and
try using an Apple laptop, specifically, the Mac Book Air. I know there is a
steep learning curve, but I must say that there is a lot of support
available.

For example, every Apple store is supposed to have on site training on all
Apple devices for people with disabilities, including blind people. I know
that the store here in Louisville has such training.

The Apple Care for people with disabilities is available over the phone 24
hours a day, 7 days a week. That is more than there regular Apple Care.

The Apple Mac has a built in screen reader with different voices at no extra
cost installed on each device they make. There is also a short tutorial for
how to use Voice Over, the Apple voice and it's software, also at no extra
cost, included on each device.

I know that it has nothing to do with how it works, but the outer case of
the laptop is metal and has an apple, complete with 2 leaves and a bite
taken from the apple, as the logo which I can touch easily.



Has anyone else thought about using, or has used an Apple mac laptop? If so
what did or do you think about the Mac?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.



Paulette

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Re: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

[Tony C via Talk]

Hi, My next computer purchase will be a Mac. I stopped using Jaws back in 
2003 and used Window eyes till forced to revert to Jaws. I don't like the 
company assoiated with it.


-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:33 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Paulette Vickery
Subject: Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

Hi all,



I don't know about you, but I am just getting tired of it and want a
complete change. I am tired of having to change screen readers every so
often. I am tired of continually having to learn new and so called improved
Windows programs and Windows updates. I am tired of wondering, worrying and
waiting for the next change and inevitable scramble to keep up by the blind
in the computer world.



So now, I am considering taking a leap of what ever you care to call it and
try using an Apple laptop, specifically, the Mac Book Air. I know there is a
steep learning curve, but I must say that there is a lot of support
available.

For example, every Apple store is supposed to have on site training on all
Apple devices for people with disabilities, including blind people. I know
that the store here in Louisville has such training.

The Apple Care for people with disabilities is available over the phone 24
hours a day, 7 days a week. That is more than there regular Apple Care.

The Apple Mac has a built in screen reader with different voices at no extra
cost installed on each device they make. There is also a short tutorial for
how to use Voice Over, the Apple voice and it's software, also at no extra
cost, included on each device.

I know that it has nothing to do with how it works, but the outer case of
the laptop is metal and has an apple, complete with 2 leaves and a bite
taken from the apple, as the logo which I can touch easily.



Has anyone else thought about using, or has used an Apple mac laptop? If so
what did or do you think about the Mac?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.



Paulette

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Has anyone ever considered using the Apple Mac?

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Hi all,

 

I don't know about you, but I am just getting tired of it and want a
complete change. I am tired of having to change screen readers every so
often. I am tired of continually having to learn new and so called improved
Windows programs and Windows updates. I am tired of wondering, worrying and
waiting for the next change and inevitable scramble to keep up by the blind
in the computer world.

 

So now, I am considering taking a leap of what ever you care to call it and
try using an Apple laptop, specifically, the Mac Book Air. I know there is a
steep learning curve, but I must say that there is a lot of support
available.

For example, every Apple store is supposed to have on site training on all
Apple devices for people with disabilities, including blind people. I know
that the store here in Louisville has such training.

The Apple Care for people with disabilities is available over the phone 24
hours a day, 7 days a week. That is more than there regular Apple Care.

The Apple Mac has a built in screen reader with different voices at no extra
cost installed on each device they make. There is also a short tutorial for
how to use Voice Over, the Apple voice and it's software, also at no extra
cost, included on each device.

I know that it has nothing to do with how it works, but the outer case of
the laptop is metal and has an apple, complete with 2 leaves and a bite
taken from the apple, as the logo which I can touch easily.

 

Has anyone else thought about using, or has used an Apple mac laptop? If so
what did or do you think about the Mac?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

 

Paulette

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Re: JAWS question

[geodom--- via Talk]

Yes, and I can't even get it to do stuff that it's supposed to do.  When I 
put it in my other computer, I set it up the way I was told to do, telling 
it how I wanted my settings to be, and they didn't even take.  I have not 
figured out how to put it in this computer yet.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:00 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: Re: JAWS question

I agree with you.


Jaws reminds me of bloatware instead of a simple screen reader.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/23/2018 9:04 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Butch,

I'm certainly with you when it comes to being reluctant to use JFW.
I don't like having it installed on any of my machines, which is why I 
don't have it on any of them.

It made me feel sick to have it on my machines, and so I got rid of it.
In a pinch, if worse comes to the worst, I will install it and use it.
However, I find using NVDA very pleasurable.
It feels so light when loading Windows screens and web pages, in contrast 
to JFW which feels like dragging a net of fish up on the beach.
Probably there are other metaphors, but I'm trying to point to the fact 
that it just feel super sluggish, not to mention the fact that it is 
over-engineered, that is, way too complicated, and so it got in the way of 
my work.


Take care,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:11 PM
To: geodom--- via Talk
Cc: Butch Bussen
Subject: Re: JAWS question

I use window-eyes 90 percent of the time.  IT is still my favorite.
When window-eyes doesn't work, I load n v d a.  I won't run jaws.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed,
23 May 2018, geodom--- via Talk wrote:

Did you really have to give it up?  I mean, did it stop working for you? 
I
know there is no more support, and no more versions, but most of us can 
still

use it until it stops working for us.  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Hello!

Sounds like you know something about Jaws.  I am very new at Jaws with a
question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it 
is.

Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom?  It was
necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen
reader I ever used.  I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus.  Quite a
challenge.  Thanks in advance.

Norene Trappa



-Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: John Covici
Subject: Re: JAWS question

There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu,
if memory serves.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400,
Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote:

  Hi Kevin,

  Yes, that is possible.

  The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type:
  %appdata%
  Here you find a folder freedom scientific
  In this folder you will find settings about jaws.
  In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder
  with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this
  folder to the same location on the other computer.
  I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer 
so

  jaws will not lock files.

  Regards, Marten


  On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk
   wrote:


  Hi:

  My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to 
another?

  Kevin Huber
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Re: JAWS question

[Norene Trappa via Talk]

Thank you for that.  It works well for my need.

Norene



-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:01 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: net bat
Subject: Re: JAWS question

sorry. i am talking about what i do with jaws.
so  far i have been able to use the normal windows commands to do this.
go to the first line of text you want and hold down the shift key. arrow 
down

to the last line of text you want
then press control c to copy to the clip board. then go to the app you want 
to

copy it to and press control v to paste the text.
done.

-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:13 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: JAWS question

And, 400 keystrokes to boot to get a simple task done; here's an example of
such task:

With Window-Eyes, selecting a long passage or even a short one involves a
press of the F8 key.  When the desired text has been selected, press F8
again and choose between copying the selected text with all formatting
retained, or simply copying to the Clipboard with Alt-C.

Now, let's do the same task using Jaws:

1.  Start with a press of Control-Windows-K to set a place marker
2.  Next, select all the text you wish to copy and pray that it selects
everything without a hitch
3.  Now, with your preferred text selected, press Insert-Space, then M
4.  One gets to know that the entire text has been selected
5.  Now, press Control-C to Copy the selected text to the Clipboard.

'Ouch, why is a simple task so complicated?  Ask Jaws and good luck if you
get an answer!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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Re: JAWS question

[Bob Tinney via Talk]

I agree with you.


Jaws reminds me of bloatware instead of a simple screen reader.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/23/2018 9:04 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Butch,

I'm certainly with you when it comes to being reluctant to use JFW.
I don't like having it installed on any of my machines, which is why I don't 
have it on any of them.
It made me feel sick to have it on my machines, and so I got rid of it.
In a pinch, if worse comes to the worst, I will install it and use it.
However, I find using NVDA very pleasurable.
It feels so light when loading Windows screens and web pages, in contrast to 
JFW which feels like dragging a net of fish up on the beach.
Probably there are other metaphors, but I'm trying to point to the fact that it 
just feel super sluggish, not to mention the fact that it is over-engineered, 
that is, way too complicated, and so it got in the way of my work.

Take care,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:11 PM
To: geodom--- via Talk
Cc: Butch Bussen
Subject: Re: JAWS question

I use window-eyes 90 percent of the time.  IT is still my favorite.
When window-eyes doesn't work, I load n v d a.  I won't run jaws.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed,
23 May 2018, geodom--- via Talk wrote:


Did you really have to give it up?  I mean, did it stop working for you?  I
know there is no more support, and no more versions, but most of us can still
use it until it stops working for us.  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Hello!

Sounds like you know something about Jaws.  I am very new at Jaws with a
question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is.
Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom?  It was
necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen
reader I ever used.  I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus.  Quite a
challenge.  Thanks in advance.

Norene Trappa



-Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: John Covici
Subject: Re: JAWS question

There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu,
if memory serves.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400,
Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote:

  Hi Kevin,

  Yes, that is possible.

  The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type:
  %appdata%
  Here you find a folder freedom scientific
  In this folder you will find settings about jaws.
  In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder
  with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this
  folder to the same location on the other computer.
  I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so
  jaws will not lock files.

  Regards, Marten


  On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk
   wrote:


  Hi:

  My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another?
  Kevin Huber
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Re: just a test because of bounced emails

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hi Mike, your list mail is coming through loud and clear. However, I don’t know 
if you’ll see this or not. This is not the only server and that is acting this 
way. There are other servers that are bouncing providers as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2018, at 3:45 AM, M F Mason via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I apologise for this note but it is by way of a test as it has been brought 
> to my attention that emails have been bounced back by my internet service 
> provider.
> 
> Thank you for your patience.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Mike.
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just a test because of bounced emails

[M F Mason via Talk]

Hello,

I apologise for this note but it is by way of a test as it has been 
brought to my attention that emails have been bounced back by my 
internet service provider.


Thank you for your patience.

Many thanks,

Mike.

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RE: JAWS question

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

That might be the case on windows 10 but I don't think it will become
unusable on windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bryan Peterson
Subject: RE: JAWS question

Well sooner or later, sad as it is, WE is going to be made completely
unusable by some new update to Windows.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: geodom--- via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: geo...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Did you really have to give it up?  I mean, did it stop working for you?  I 
know there is no more support, and no more versions, but most of us can 
still use it until it stops working for us.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Hello!

Sounds like you know something about Jaws.  I am very new at Jaws with a
question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is.
Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom?  It was
necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen
reader I ever used.  I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus.  Quite a
challenge.  Thanks in advance.

Norene Trappa



-Original Message- 
From: John Covici via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: John Covici
Subject: Re: JAWS question

There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu,
if memory serves.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400,
Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, that is possible.
>
> The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type:
> %appdata%
> Here you find a folder freedom scientific
> In this folder you will find settings about jaws.
> In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder
> with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this
> folder to the same location on the other computer.
> I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so
> jaws will not lock files.
>
> Regards, Marten
>
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another?
> > Kevin Huber
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RE: JAWS question

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

Well sooner or later, sad as it is, WE is going to be made completely unusable 
by some new update to Windows.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: geodom--- via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: geo...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Did you really have to give it up?  I mean, did it stop working for you?  I 
know there is no more support, and no more versions, but most of us can 
still use it until it stops working for us.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Hello!

Sounds like you know something about Jaws.  I am very new at Jaws with a
question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is.
Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom?  It was
necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen
reader I ever used.  I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus.  Quite a
challenge.  Thanks in advance.

Norene Trappa



-Original Message- 
From: John Covici via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: John Covici
Subject: Re: JAWS question

There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu,
if memory serves.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400,
Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, that is possible.
>
> The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type:
> %appdata%
> Here you find a folder freedom scientific
> In this folder you will find settings about jaws.
> In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder
> with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this
> folder to the same location on the other computer.
> I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so
> jaws will not lock files.
>
> Regards, Marten
>
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another?
> > Kevin Huber
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Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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