Re: changes in drop box

2019-10-05 Thread Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Hi John, In answer to your question, I am running Windows 10, version 
1809, don't know which 1809 release but recent.



Don Roberts


On 10/4/2019 11:49 AM, bjcolt via Talk wrote:

Hi Donald,

What  operating system are you running?

I gave what is happening to your drop box a try and after 20 seconds nothing 
changed sorry to say. If you are running windows 100 then that I the answer.

I did try with jws and nvda with similar results of drop box not working 
properly in my windows 7 machine. I haven't tested it yet in windows 10.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: 04 October 2019 17:55
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Cc: Donald L. Roberts 
Subject: Re: changes in drop box

Rod, when I first attempt to open Dropbox from the desktop icon, nothing 
happens.  However, when I again attempt this after waiting perhaps ten seconds 
at most, I see all of my Dropbox subfolders and have no difficulty using the 
arrow keys to navigate them.


Don Roberts


On 10/4/2019 4:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi John,

Okay, just checked my version of the DropBox desktop app.
I did this by opening the system tray using Insert-S which is the Window-Eyes 
hot key for doing this.
It is 82.4.155.
It was updated yesterday according to Add/Remove programs.
I'm running Windows 10 Home 64-bit.
I have a desktop icon for DropBox.
When I press Enter on it, it opens my personal DropBox folder. which displays 
just like any other folder on my system.
And, within this folder are all my shared folders, that is, folders I have 
shared with other specific people, like you and I had, at one time.
I don't know what else I can say except that you could uninstall and then 
reinstall the desktop app and log in again.
The key thing to note is that the DropBox desktop application is the most 
easily accessible way to manage sharing files on a daily basis.

Good luck,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
On Behalf Of bjcolt via Talk
Sent: October 4, 2019 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: bjcolt 
Subject: RE: changes in drop box

Hi Rod,

Sorry but it doesn;'t do as on the tin. Smile

When I open drop box. The page is blank. The only way I can read anything is 
use the arrow keys on the numpad. Tabbing doesn't work either.

To select a named folder I use the arrow keys on the numpadto first select a 
named folder. Then the arrow ke to the right of control. Those keys don't speak 
but the named folder changes with the up or down arrow keys. The numpad arrow 
keys don't change the named folder in any way.

I hope that makes sense?

Live long and prosper, Johnys

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: 04 October 2019 11:43
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: changes in drop box

Hi John,

I'm sorry but we don't seem to be on the same page.
Let's try to go slowly in order to diagnose this problem.
Do you have an icon called DropBox on your desktop?
If you press Enter on this icon, it should open the DropBox folder which should 
display exactly like any other folder on your system.

Best,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
On Behalf Of bjcolt via Talk
Sent: October 4, 2019 5:17 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: bjcolt 
Subject: RE: changes in drop box

Hi Rod,

I always viewed the drop box folder using the arrow keys. That view no longer 
works for me. I have to use the numpad arrow keys to view the drop box folder.

I am unable to paste any files in drop box, even though I have selected a sub 
folder. I can't open the folders either.They changed the interface.

I was able to arrow down press enter on a folder and either copy or paste in a 
folder or file. I can't do that any more.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: 04 October 2019 05:08
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: changes in drop box

Hi John,

Precisely are you trying to view your folders?
Do you not still have the DropBox desktop software installed, which creates a 
personal folder, normally as a child of your user folder?
And then your shared folders, which you set up with fellow DropBox users, are 
children of your personal folder.
Also, you can view your DropBox account on the web, with the browser and screen 
reader of your choice.

Hope this helps,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
On Behalf Of bjcolt via Talk
Sent: October 3, 2019 7:51 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: bjcolt 
Subject: changes in drop box

Hi List,

   


I just noticed today that drop box has been updated. I for some reason can't 
read the drop box page where my folders are kept. However I can read them with 
the numpad keys.

   


I this a fixable problem? I was able to read the page with the arrow keys no 
problem with nvda.

   

Re: changes in drop box

2019-10-05 Thread David via Talk
Yes, checking the box will turn it off for that one drive, or memory 
card. Try inserting a new one, and the Camera Upload thing comes on 
again. And how does it remember that it is turned off? By throwing a 
.Dropbox file on each drive or USB stick or Memory card in your 
collection. Deleting that file from your drive, then insert it into your 
computer anew, and the Camera Upload is on again. Even if Dropbox is not 
running at the moment, some resistant thing makes Dropbox start, when a 
pen or card is inserted. Only safe way to go, is to turn off Internet 
access, insert the card or pen drive, and then turn back on Internet 
again. Easy enough, on a laptop with a Wireless On/Off button, but a bit 
more tricky when working on a computer with a cable on the backside. 
That is, unless you have an external On/Off box for your connection.


Anyway, the Camera Upload issue, is not in any way related to any screen 
reader. Except from the fact, that sometimes the window gets stuck 
behind anything else, and you cannot get to it, or you might get there 
but cannot route the mouse to the checkbox, and long as the Window is 
behind everything else, certain dialog boxes from other pieces of 
software on your system, won't display or act correctly. In such cases, 
the Task Manager, will be a good tool to push Dropbox off the scene.



David

On 10/5/2019 2:04 AM, john schwery via Talk wrote:
> David, I think I turned off that camera upload by tabbing and hitting 
> a checkbox.
>
> At 04:54 PM 10/4/2019, David via Talk, wrote:
>> Still under Win7, so don't know if this will contribute anything at all.
>> But thought to throw in a couple of ideas.
>>
>>
>> First of all, If you ope a normal session in Windows Explorer, i.e by
>> hitting Windows-E.
>>
>> Now move to your standard drive, like C:.
>>
>> in the root of that drive, you likely will have a foldr, named Users,
>> and under that one, every of your user profiles have their own
>> subfolder. Go to the subfolder of your Username, and I think it is under
>> AppData that you will find the Dropbox subfolder. This is the
>> down-to-basic way of reaching the Dropbox folder, and the oneapproach I
>> used a couple of days ago. It worked back then, but that might have been
>> prior to any updates of the Dropbox software.
>>
>>
>> Still, I don't understand, how Dropbox would prevent you from getting
>> normal results, when going this rather manual way. You should be able to
>> reach your local copy of the dropbox folder. That is, long as your
>> system is set up to hold a local copy, of course.
>>
>>
>> Second idea, please open the Windows Task Manager, by hitting
>> Ctrl-Shift-Escape. Scroll down to Dropbox, and hit Alt-E, to end the
>> process, and hit Enter to confirm. Press Escape to get out of the Task
>> Manager. If everything went well, your Dropbox is now temporarily turned
>> off, and your system might leave you the chance of getting to the local
>> Dropbox folder on your hard Drive.
>>
>> Thirdly, if any of it all does not work, here is one more thing to try.
>> If possible, please disconnect from any Internet - Wired or Wireless. To
>> give it as safe as possible a try, restart your computer. Make sure no
>> Dropbox is running,, that is, check the SysTray, and the Task Manager.
>> Now try getting to your local folder, and see if it is possible. If so,
>> do your copying and reorganizing as you desire. When done, reconnect to
>> the internet, and start Dropbox. It supposedly should now realize there
>> has been some changes in the local folder, and synchronize with the
>> online version of the service.
>>
>> Again, I did work with Dropbox somethng like two days ago, and had no
>> problems in approaching my local folder - doing what I wanted like in
>> any other folder on my computer - and then  let the Dropbox software
>> synchronize with the online service.
>>
>> In general, I am considering leaving Dropbox altogether. Among other
>> things, I hate that it insist on running a service it names "camera
>> upload", every time I insert a new memory stick or card into my
>> computer. To have it stop doing so, you will have to accept it splashing
>> a file of its own, onto every single drive. Have found no way to turn
>> off all that self-acting stuff. And if now they have changed their
>> services, that they no longer are accessible for screen reader users, I
>> am ready to give it all up. Smiles.
>>
>> There used to be a Dropbox app for Window-Eyes. Don't know if it still
>> has any impact, or if it only would get in your way. But it might be one
>> way to go. Not even sure, exactly what that app did. A couple of days
>> ago, I uploaded a zip archive of the WE apps I had drawn from App
>> Central, and I know the Dropbox app was in that archive as well. So you
>> could get it from there, if you want to give it a try. Doubtfully,
>> though, it will solve much of your trouble; but I thought to mention it.
>> In case you have it already installed, may it be of any