[OSM-talk] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)

2008-08-28 Thread Tim Dobson
Hi guys, I'm a relative newbie to OSM(I understand it - I just haven't been involved long), but I just noticed this on the news sites: http://news.google.co.uk/?ncl=1240671745 I'm seeing articles like this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4629602.ece saying things like: "Corp

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Lock

2008-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Another attempt to get consensus on how to tag canal locks... Discussion has been open for two weeks with no comments, so hopefully this is OK with everyone. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Lock Gerv ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FWIW, I've been planning to implement just that at some point, just >> havn't gotten around to it yet. The biggest problem is that the style >> file needs to contain information like "tag X applies only to >> nodes/ways/area

Re: [OSM-talk] Left-Right and opposite - Issue

2008-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Florian Lohoff wrote: > I'd like to see a proposal for tag agnostic tagging of left and right > e.h. prepend all directional tags with left:cycleway=lane and > right:cycleway=line. I think that's a really great idea, and the correct solution to the problem. However, it would be a reasonably large

Re: [OSM-talk] 'Offset path' distances

2008-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Could anyone suggest what distance, and for what use, these presets > should be? (e.g. "narrow canal towpath, 5 metres" - i.e. the offset > from the canal centreline to the towpath centreline) For canal to towpath centreline, it would be 5-10m. Would it be possible

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 16:57 +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dave Stubbs > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, technically, there are ways of handling this case (the way > would > > need duplicating on import, with some clever tag stripping). But > they > > a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, technically, there are ways of handling this case (the way would >> need duplicating on import, with some clever tag stripping). But

Re: [OSM-talk] [tech/API] Accessing tags set by a user for traces

2008-08-28 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: > > > I'm working on Viking[1], a GPS desktop application with OSM related > features. > > > > In order to assist user when uploading its traces to OSM, I wish to > > contact OSM, retrieve the previo

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread Gregory
Ah, I thought I had just been doing something weird when I got that message yesterday. It was when switching between the View/Edit tab for me. I couldn't recreate the error on demand. 2008/8/28 Mike Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 12:18 PM 28/08/2008, Tom Hughes wrote: > >robin paulson wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Dermot McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reuse of the way (or > creation of an identical one using the same nodes) ... are conceptually two completely different things. Having one object (the way) representing two different real-world objects is different from

Re: [OSM-talk] [tech/API] Accessing tags set by a user for traces

2008-08-28 Thread Tom Hughes
Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: > I'm working on Viking[1], a GPS desktop application with OSM related features. > > In order to assist user when uploading its traces to OSM, I wish to > contact OSM, retrieve the previously used tags, and propose these tags > to the user for the new trace. > > Is ther

[OSM-talk] [tech/API] Accessing tags set by a user for traces

2008-08-28 Thread Guilhem Bonnefille
Hi, I'm working on Viking[1], a GPS desktop application with OSM related features. In order to assist user when uploading its traces to OSM, I wish to contact OSM, retrieve the previously used tags, and propose these tags to the user for the new trace. Is there such API actually? [1] http://vik

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, technically, there are ways of handling this case (the way would > need duplicating on import, with some clever tag stripping). But they > aren't pretty, or I think, desirable. FWIW, I've been planning to implement jus

Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap questions

2008-08-28 Thread Simon Wood
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:41:33 -0700 "Karl Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right. It's because the source files don't have bounds. If you have > only a couple files, you could insert a dummy bound element before the first > node. It should work as long as it includes the area that you'

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 48, Issue 77

2008-08-28 Thread David Ebling
Peter, The same idea has occurred to me also. I think far from developing this being a waste of time, I think it is highly desirable from the point of view of avoiding multiple ways sharing a set of nodes, which makes editing a nightmare. It seems all round the most elegant solution for multipl

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:18 PM 28/08/2008, Tom Hughes wrote: >robin paulson wrote: > >> i've been getting an error in osm all day, whenever i hit reload, or try >> to do something in the messages section: >> >> >> --- >> Application error >> >> Change this error message for exceptions thrown o

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

2008-08-28 Thread OJ W
Use that on a bike, and you'll quickly find that the screen is unreadable in sunlight (especially when displaying OSM map images which are typically white or light-coloured roads on a white background) On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:53 AM, robin paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris G wrote: > h

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Dermot McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/8/28 Steve Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> There are two reasons why your "tag combination ought to be able to >> render correctly as is" statement is not valid. > > This is always a risk :) > >> Firstly - as Thoma

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse

2008-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
> -Original Message- > Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:59:12 +0100 > From: "Thomas Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also > landuse... > To: "Dermot McNally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: osm > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Co

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread Tom Hughes
robin paulson wrote: > ok, the last time, i was looking at the main map, somewhere around zoom > 14, and hit Ctrl-F5, to see if the area i'd mapped earlier had rendered > (osmarender) > > http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.92273&lon=174.75996&zoom=15&layers=0B0FTF > > was the link i think > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Marc Schütz
> Steve Chilton wrote: > > Dermot > > > > There are two reasons why your "tag combination ought to be able to > > render correctly as is" statement is not valid. > > Firstly - as Thomas pointed out - mapnik likes one feature per way. > > Secondly - landuse=grass is not rendered at the moment (beca

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/8/28 robin paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > this sounds a lot like you're using the same way to form the centre of > the road, and the boundary of the grass. wouldn't it be easier to use a > separate way to represent each? That is what I'm doing. I don't do this in all cases, but some do lend

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread robin paulson
Tom Hughes wrote: > robin paulson wrote: > >> i've been getting an error in osm all day, whenever i hit reload, or >> try to do something in the messages section: >> >> >> --- >> Application error >> >> Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action >> (

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Data

2008-08-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/08/2008 11:08, fx5900 wrote: > Hi guys, > > I would like to store this map which i have taken from OSM site which > can be seen via clicking the download link www.megaupload.com/?d=5Y58619K > and store its information such as the names of places, road names, > cor-ordinates etc in a dat

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread Rory McCann
Tom Hughes wrote: > robin paulson wrote: > >> i've been getting an error in osm all day, whenever i hit reload, or try >> to do something in the messages section: >> >> >> --- >> Application error >> >> Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action >> (

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Thomas Wood
2008/8/28 robin paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Steve Chilton wrote: >> Dermot >> >> There are two reasons why your "tag combination ought to be able to >> render correctly as is" statement is not valid. >> Firstly - as Thomas pointed out - mapnik likes one feature per way. >> Secondly - landuse=gra

Re: [OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread Tom Hughes
robin paulson wrote: > i've been getting an error in osm all day, whenever i hit reload, or try > to do something in the messages section: > > > --- > Application error > > Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action > (like in Dispatcher setups or

[OSM-talk] OSM Data

2008-08-28 Thread fx5900
Hi guys, I would like to store this map which i have taken from OSM site which can be seen via clicking the download link www.megaupload.com/?d=5Y58619K and store its information such as the names of places, road names, cor-ordinates etc in a database. Then create an application similar to t

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread robin paulson
Steve Chilton wrote: > Dermot > > There are two reasons why your "tag combination ought to be able to > render correctly as is" statement is not valid. > Firstly - as Thomas pointed out - mapnik likes one feature per way. > Secondly - landuse=grass is not rendered at the moment (because of the > v

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/8/28 Steve Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There are two reasons why your "tag combination ought to be able to > render correctly as is" statement is not valid. This is always a risk :) > Firstly - as Thomas pointed out - mapnik likes one feature per way. > Secondly - landuse=grass is not re

[OSM-talk] error in osm

2008-08-28 Thread robin paulson
i've been getting an error in osm all day, whenever i hit reload, or try to do something in the messages section: --- Application error Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) in public/500.html --

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

2008-08-28 Thread robin paulson
Chris G wrote: > I'm after a GPS system which I can use to provide data for OSM maps > and as a 'normal' GPS system to tell me where to go when I'm on my > motorbike. Is there anything which can provide both facilities or > should I give up and buy two separate devices? > > It's doubtful (to me)

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik handling of highways that are also landuse...

2008-08-28 Thread Steve Chilton
Dermot There are two reasons why your "tag combination ought to be able to render correctly as is" statement is not valid. Firstly - as Thomas pointed out - mapnik likes one feature per way. Secondly - landuse=grass is not rendered at the moment (because of the vast disagreement on the whole landu

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

2008-08-28 Thread Chris G
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 09:23:21PM +0200, Ulf Lamping wrote: [snip lots of useful information and experience] > > 3. Conclusion > - > If you're touring a lot in european areas and are willing to spend about > 600EUR I would *really* recommend to buy a TomTom Rider II with european >

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch & duplicated node

2008-08-28 Thread Chris Browet
> > Although it's appropriate in this case, remember that created_by is > not a reliable indicator to what editor was used to carry out the > edit, for this reason: > > http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/1047 > > and Potlatch's version number is in the created_by string for a > reason, please do q

Re: [OSM-talk] Any cyclists interested in a Grand European Sweden-to-Marathon Mapping Relay?

2008-08-28 Thread robin paulson
Mike Collinson wrote: > This is just for fun but might also raise some useful publicity as quirky > stunt. > > - Does not have to be bicycle. Foot, roller-blade, kayak ... could be added > if there is interest. what an awesome idea. great way to map, to publicise, to meet other mappers. can