Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread Colin Smale
Attack is the best form of defence? On 2015-01-06 06:46, Jo Walsh wrote: > dear Michal, > > This is an interesting set of comprehensive criticisms that gives OSM > something to aim for in terms of a classical maturity model. > > However, I wonder what you bring to the party apart from crit

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-05 Thread Jo Walsh
Data won't slip away because it is not tagged; it will slip away because it is not linked. The linking process benefits from having less coordination. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015, at 06:06 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > You'd rather face a tag fragmentation, and slowly see your data slip > away? > It seems

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
> What about the maps I produce for my client? You're not likely to know about > it as it is a private project. If you make a mechanical edit that breaks my > render, should I send the bill for the changes to you rather than ask my > client to pay? (This is not hypothetical I really do have a rende

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread Jo Walsh
dear Michal, This is an interesting set of comprehensive criticisms that gives OSM something to aim for in terms of a classical maturity model. However, I wonder what you bring to the party apart from critique. What are your contributions to OSM? Jo / zool > * People are making discussions th

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread Blake Girardot
On 1/6/2015 2:25 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: * Software for monitoring OSM changes is still very rudimentary. I wanna be the f**king NSA. It's incredibly hard to check newbies' work quickly (eg. you have to load every changeset separately into OSMHV). Have you seen this tool and/or does it hel

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread john whelan
Interesting thoughts, I note that HOT is interested in how the data is consumed and in setting some sort of standards. I find the HOT approach gives some hope for the future. Locally much of the information in OSM is not readily useable, different spellings in the tags, different tags for the sam

Re: [OSM-talk] Major licence violation by app myTrails?

2015-01-05 Thread James Mast
Here's the only mentions of 'OpenStreetMap' on their site: http://www.frogsparks.com/?s=openstreetmap&lang=en ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread Michał Brzozowski
OSM is not mature IMO: * People are making discussions that come to no conclusion, this is so notorious. * OSMF does very little work to actually promote OSM and improve its ecosystem (the only things they do that matter are providing servers and the SOTM) * There is very little collaboration betw

[OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
There have been a couple of threads on OpenStreetMap’s mailing list this month to do with change. The first, entitled “Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto”, is all to do with a change to the way the default map style *looks* on openstreetmap.org. The second, “MEP – pip

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-05 Thread colliar
Am 05.01.2015 um 00:17 schrieb Lists:> >> On Jan 4, 2015, at 21:11, Richard Z. wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:18:57AM -0200, Lists wrote: >>> May I suggest the following work flow: >>> >>> 1) Agree upon 2 dates sufficiently spaced i.e. 2 weeks apart >>> 2) First date, add the new tag, lea

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset messaging & Notes feature question

2015-01-05 Thread colliar
Am 01.01.2015 um 01:39 schrieb Tom Hughes:> On 01/01/15 00:36, Dave F. wrote: Hey >> I'm struggling to comprehend how a button to turn off the notes layer, >> that's separate (& hidden!) from the only obvious button to turn the >> layer on can be described as 'logical' to an experienced user let

[OSM-talk] Maps in Malta

2015-01-05 Thread Lester Caine
Spent the last two weeks od December in Malta and have to say that the OSM data for the island and for Gozo was excellent. Did have the same problem with OSMAND avoiding the obvious short cuts which I have in the UK, but given the quality of some of the roads I can understand the difficulty actuall

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-05 Thread Andreas Goss
IMHO it is much better - on low zoom levels maps is now less cluttered and on high zoom levels POIs are now more visible. +1 Honestly I love this simple grey for buildings. I think they are visible enough, but don't stick out too much. Which in my opinion is exactly how it is supposed to be as

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2015-01-05 Thread Lester Caine
On 05/01/15 06:49, Maarten Deen wrote: >> - Lester, the discussion was not "a couple of days over the holiday >> season". My initial request for feedback was at 27 November. > > That coincides with the start of the US holiday season. And for the first time in a number of years *I* actually got aw

[OSM-talk] Major licence violation by app myTrails?

2015-01-05 Thread NopMap
Hi! Recently I was made aware of the android app "myTrails" as a major source of mass tile downloads. When checking out the app I found that it indeed includes among many other sources about all the well-known OSM maps and offers mass downloading for all of them. What I did not find is any attri