On Saturday 18 November 2017, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> john whelan wrote:
> > No you need to build up trust again and it takes time. Only then
> > will your ideas start to gain acceptance.
>
> Oh come on. I've been a mapper since 2010, I've hosted dozens of
> events, I've written many articles and too
john whelan wrote:
No you need to build up trust again and it takes time. Only then will your
ideas start to gain acceptance.
Oh come on. I've been a mapper since 2010, I've hosted dozens of events,
I've written many articles and tools, some of which you might have used,
I'm on the Board cur
John, are you claiming the entire conversation last week had nothing to do
with the merits of the tool itself? That's a very sad statement.
"building up trust" implies actions. Creating a tool that mimics what other
tools already do implies exactly that. Ignoring the actual tool, and
instead conce
Just stop this.
This has been a fine example of how to decrease membership of a list
that should be productive and friendly but has been anything but so far.
On 18.11.2017 18:42, john whelan wrote:
No you need to build up trust again and it takes time. Only then will
your ideas start to gai
No you need to build up trust again and it takes time. Only then will your
ideas start to gain acceptance.
Cheerio John
On 18 November 2017 at 13:26, Yuri Astrakhan
wrote:
> John, not trusting a brand name and being unreasonable about new project
> are two different things. One is a healthy c
John, not trusting a brand name and being unreasonable about new project
are two different things. One is a healthy caution. The other is a
baseless witch hunt, at which point it doesn't matter what the person does,
what matters are the pitch forks and torches.
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 1:19 PM, jo
>There were many OSM edits I have done in the past. Some of them might have
broken the rules. How does that relate to the new tool discussion? The
conversation was about the new tool that does things the same way as
several other tools.
How does that break "unwritten rules"?
It relates to trust
James, this is not about hurt feelings. This is about misrepresentation.
Last week I re-wrote Sophox tool based on the community feedback. The new
tool uses the same approaches as existing tools. Yet, somehow I violated
some unwritten rule by creating a new tool? This is bogus.
There were many O
Seriously this is what 2017 has become? A bunch of snowflakes argueing
whoes feelings are hurt? Seriously grow up people, the world is not full of
cupcakes and rainbows.
"Yuri is perceived by many as unreasonable as before and tries to ignore
all the unwritten rules in OSM."
I was somewhat follow
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