Minh Nguyen <m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us> writes:

> For what it's worth, the argument about transparency would probably be
> more effective if it were actually an upfront expectation that applies
> to everyone. As it is, anyone could simply set source=survey or
> local_knowledge on their changeset and call it a day.
>
> Unless I take the time to take more polished photos along my daily
> walk and upload them to Wikimedia Commons or Flickr with the correct
> metadata, my photos are copyrighted, all rights reserved, as
> unpublished works. The same goes with my field notes, which I've long
> deleted as soon as I finish mapping, never to be recovered by a
> fact-checker. Sometimes I'm left wondering if I made a typo until I
> return to the spot.
>
> We could ask if the honor code should apply to such a prolific editing
> team. But do we actually have a problem with Lyft fabricating edits? I
> haven't seen evidence of that; it would be quite surprising for a
> company so invested in our project.

I don't mean to imply that Lyft is adding fake data.

Sure, I get it that individual people do not document their photos and
paper notes.  But those are individual people with their own notes, not
an organized/paid edit backed by a large organization.  For an
individual, it's "I saw stuff and too pictures probably recently".  My
point is really that organized editing, paid editing, automated edits,
etc. should have a higher bar to basically document what they are doing.

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