On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:34 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
Whereabouts is the prior written consent from Microsoft which would enable
us to trace and thus create derivative works?
David
[1]
Just to clarify is this
http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html the document which
contains the license grant? Could some please point me to the section
which says derived information shall have no restriction on its use?
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com wrote:
We have a ToU agreement specially designed for osm (Bing Maps Imagery
Service Editor Application API's Terms of Use [1]) so do we even need to
consider the general terms of use?
They are both somewhat similar,
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
You can of course fork whatever you like, but allow me to point out that
(1) if you are unhappy with the slippy map plugin, why not fork that instead
of the whole editor.
(2) the slippy map plugin can be configured
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent. The thought does occur that if one used source=bing, and
started tracing now, and for some reason the legal agreement didn't
eventuate, it would be easy to simply wipe all that data. But that
would be making
nearmap does not support the planned license change so we'd rather
have people using bing --frederik
Where is the license information from bing that makes deriving
information from their maps compatiable with OSM?
Time to fork josm... fjosm!
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
...Only 1
item is CC-BY-SA which is NearMap who have rights over the
(contributed) traced data, LWG intend to have further discussion when
the revisions to the Contributor Terms have settled down.
Just to clarify
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
And without going back to the ancient Rome, every day some OSM data become
obsolete (shops dissapearing, builings/roads destroyed, etc) and the average
contributor will just delete them and not just add a tag 'end_date'.
Just a
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:26 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 10:55 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote:
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:37 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
One question.. lit=yes is fine for ways where you want to indicate that
a way is lit
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Most either can't do anything about it, or don't care about doing
anything about it as the current solution is good enough.
It'd also be nice to be able to tag individual lanes, but again anyone
that could do
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Hi talk-au,
My name is Richard and I'm an OpenStreetMap enthusiast. I've been
maintaining the Project of the Week [1] for a while. It's supposed to
be a way for mappers to share the things about mapping that excite
them
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com
wrote:
Looks like this has been done again
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6132651
The whole closed way bays that I added have been
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:55 AM, swanilli swani...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20/10/2010, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
There are almost 15000 points in the OSM database that include
natural=bay. There are 241 polygons that include natural=bay.
Place a point in the bay, and tag it as
Too many edits for me to keep track of, and it is hard to read every
change file to understand exactly what has been changed. So I would
find it helpful if the changes to Port Hacking/surronding bays are
discussed and explained here, if it won't fit in the comment. Thanks.
Looks like this has been done again
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6132651
The whole closed way bays that I added have been deleted. I consider
this is vandalism, what should I do?
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
All of the inner bays that
high zooms.
Third, it allows for someone to use the database to ask Am I in ... Bay?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like this has been done again
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6132651
The whole closed way bays that I added have
] On Behalf Of Andrew Harvey
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2010 9:21 AM
To: OSM Australian Talk List
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Port Hacking (Bay v. Water)
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
Well at the moment it isn't rendering correctly as there is no coastline
It seems Port Hacking has been subject to some edit warring.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/285916/history
My view is that it is not a bay. Its name doesn't have bay, its more
of a lake, or just a body of water, I would have thought.
What is the consenus here? Should it be tagged
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
Well at the moment it isn't rendering correctly as there is no coastline
across the entrance.
I see you've fix that now.
Well to be tagged as natural=water it should be a body of standing water,
such as a lake or pond.
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
So I would agree with this proposal, although I'd like to see an OSM
file before hand of the changes...
An OSM file like the osmChange ... ones (eg.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/0123/download), or the
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 October 2010 16:57, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
An OSM file like the osmChange ... ones (eg.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/0123/download), or the
osm ... one that JOSM can save
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Me personally I like the maritime law description, where the coast
line cuts across bays and the mouths of rivers etc...
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
4) Add extra way for
I've made the revisions,
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~amha119/botany-bay-relation2.osm
So I've used the multipolygon to make islands as inner, and left the
other bays are separate bays. After I get this working I can then try
to turn Congwong Bay at the East into an area, and then it can be
Of Andrew Harvey
Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2010 9:57 PM
To: OSM Australian Talk List
Subject: Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation
I've made the revisions,
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~amha119/botany-bay-relation2.osm
So I've used the multipolygon to make islands as inner
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Which is exactly the point, unless ODBL data can be imported (or
traced or ) it makes little difference to me what license they are
using, it certainly doesn't prove that it is more useful in a court of
law that
I feel some clarification on what is meant by import is needed. For
example recently I've been importing names of bays from public
domain maps. I call adding this data from the PD maps to OSM importing
because the data was created somewhere else first, even though I'm
adding it on a case-by-case
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk wrote:
Another issue is that bots tend to change tags in the entire planet in one
huge changeset, which means that history feeds are polluted. It is quite
easy to reprogram the bot so it makes edits locally, i.e. in a primary
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
The current contributor terms for new accounts require you grant a licence to
the OSMF to do 'any act that is restricted by copyright', subject to section 3
which says that OSMF will distribute under CC-BY-SA, ODbL/DbCL, or
Ross, some more sources which recommend not having the node and the area.
One feature, one OSM-object
Don't place nodes in (equally labelled) areas just to see some icon
appear on the map. The renderers will display icons on areas as well
and there's no need to have every parking-lot,
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
Does not show up here. I see only one name Campbell Primary School.
Cyclemap and Osmarender show both names at maximum zoom.
Often the node name is rendered on top of the way name, so you only
see one. This depends on
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
In the case of Campbell Primary School it only renders one name at even the
highest zoom level.
I'm seeing two names at the highest zoom level.
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:14 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
URL?
http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/239684/158567.png
Is your browser caching old tiles?
No.
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 August 2010 19:16, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:14 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
URL?
http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/239684/158567.png
I
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
Additionally just don't delete 300 or so nodes without seeing if it's by
general agreement rather than just announcing that you've done it.
Ok sorry, in future I'll make announcements here. I just didn't want
to spam the
Does anyone know if there is an easy way for a user (A) to receive
notifications (either by email or by some API query (RSS or Atom
results best, but any XML format would do)) for objects that have been
changed that the user (A) has at one point touched?
FYI. As per
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#One_feature.2C_one_OSM-object
I've removed a whole bunch of nodes where the same feature was mapped
out as a way. I made sure not to loose any tags in the process.
Changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5634963.
I
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:15:12 +1000
Do you really think this was a good idea before discussing it on the list?
I did ask on the newbies list before about what to do here, I was told
that deleting the nodes was the best
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
The original disscussion was more than 12 months ago so not sure where you
would find it now.
If it was 1 year ago, maybe those renders and searches have been fixed by now?
The OSM Mapnik style used on the main page
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
My statistics are of course flawed - they do not capture objects
individually tagged source=nearmap rather than on the changeset, and if an
object has been modified more than once in a nearmap changeset, it has
been
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe most of those empty nodes are remnants from some time ago, when some
editors would delete a way, but not the nodes it contained (I think there
used to be such a bug, even before I started contributing to OSM).
I took a quick look at some of the maps available at
http://parishmaps.lands.nsw.gov.au/ and there is some information
there that is not mapped (like school names, park names... etc.). I
was going to use them as a mapping source. Has anyone else used them
for this?
Legality wise, I would only use
...and some of the ones of the form PMapMN* in the parish list are also useful,
Parish Index: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DukQYBmV
SID files: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CAQiN7bt
(but I don't thing these two are complete lists)
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
If You have indicated to OSMF that you waive any rights in Your
Contents (dedication to the 'public domain'), OSMF will additionally
use or sub-license Your Contents under: the Public Domain Dedication
License; or
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Which they aren't so...
I was going to just create a new account, and not agree to the CTs,
only to discover you cannot create an account without accepting. That
means that no new members can contribute by deriving
I have some questions about using the source tag.
If an existing way was marked as source:yahoo, but I made some minor
alterations from nearmap imagery what should I do to the source?
Should I leave it as source:yahoo and add source:nearmap to the
changeset? Or should I change the source:yahoo to
As John suggested if you modify a way that was tagged source=yahoo using
nearmap then it should be changed to source=nearmap. It's no different to
changing from source=yahoo to source=survey when updating to something that
is now gps traced.
Okay, the only reason I was unsure is because
If only public domain was accepted then all of the government's CC
imports would not be possible.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote:
Things would have been so much simpler if they had gone with pd from the
start.
Personally I consider all my edits (not
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