Re: [talk-au] What is the license of vicmap2osm?

2023-10-01 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, at 8:25 PM, Yuchen Pei wrote: > The repo for the vicmap importing project, vicmap2osm[1] seems to be > missing a license, could you add one please? Thank you. package.json declares it as under the MIT license, but I've added a dedicated LICENSE file now for clarity. > I

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-23 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, at 5:40 PM, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: >> I've tried to get StreetComplete to ask about access but it was rejected >> https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/2930 > note that it was rejected because > 1) access is at least sometimes unsigned and not

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-22 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 5:39 PM, Little Maps wrote: > Andrew, thanks for the super fast reply, and for the overpass query which > I'll cut and paste from! A few thoughts… > > AH: 1.98% of tracks have public vehicle access and 8.7% of tracks have no > public vehicle access (of all tracks). So

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
One more minor point about my stats, this doesn't count tracks pretty much all of the track is inaccessible for routing because the access tags are set on a gate at the start of the track. I know myself and other mappers will sometimes forget or not bother (which I'll try to correct now) to set

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 12:08 PM, Little Maps wrote: > Joe, when you talk about reaching consensus, I assume you mean consensus > among the Australian osm community, not the global osm community. Is that > right? The highway=track wiki states: "highway=track does not imply any > particular

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-19 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
TL;DR; 1. no access tags don't mean access=yes (public) it just means access hasn't been set. 2. access=unknown is probably better than access=private + fixme:access=actually unknown access but I don't want routers to use this for now On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, at 9:58 PM, Joseph Guillaume wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-19 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Thu, 19 Aug 2021, at 4:07 PM, Kevin Pye wrote: > The Vicmap TR_ROAD table has a column "restrictions", in which a value '4' > indicates that the road is private. In the latest version of the data, which > was released only in the last couple of weeks, there are 158,466 roads with > that

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-18 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, at 4:40 PM, Little Maps wrote: > Andrew, the 1:25,000 Vic gov topo mps show tracks/driveways on private > properties in a different colour to those on public land and the map > legend clearly distinguish the two. So hopefully there is a > public/private field in the dataset

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-17 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
Thanks for the feedback, On Mon, 16 Aug 2021, at 7:03 PM, Little Maps wrote: > Thanks for a great series of projects Andrew. One query… is there an error in > the Victorian all tracks challenge? It includes nearly 250,000 tracks to be > reviewed and potentially added to OSM. By contrast,

[talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-15 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
Collaborating with the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator (NHVR), I've set up MapRoulette challenges which identify tracks (highway=track) which appear in government datasets but are missing in OSM. The code to produce these challenges and the documentation of source data and waivers is at

Re: [talk-au] The Paradox of Postcodes (Was Re: Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal - Suburb and Postcode discussion)

2021-06-17 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, at 6:08 PM, Adam Horan wrote: > > The ABS have an interesting factsheet on postcodes and their own 'Postal > Area' interpretation (POA). > https://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/censushome.nsf/home/factsheetspoa > It starts with this statement: > *"A postcode is a four digit

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-06-13 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021, at 12:24 PM, Sebastian S. wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Have you considered adding a > ref:{Vic map reference}={Vic map ID} > Tag to the imported data points? > > Or do you consider a ref tag or source tag an issue for users? I decided against a reference, see

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-06-13 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021, at 12:21 PM, Sebastian S. wrote: > Thanks Andrew for this great proactive communication. Please keep at it. > > With regards to the suburb etc tags I must say I was swayed for some time. > However I still feel that including the full address has more benefits for > the

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-06-10 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Tue, 8 Jun 2021, at 7:33 PM, Ewen Hill wrote: > Andrew, > Thank you for both your initial work and the communication as well as the > listening. Can I congratulate you on the lib/toOSM.js for the capitalisation > and duplication processing. Very detailed > > A few numpty questions after

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-06-10 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021, at 5:36 PM, Benjamin Ceravolo wrote: > How is address going to be 'placed' onto the map, I assume a node? > > My primary question is where is the node going to be placed? > > Will it be placed in the centre of the property/parcel? If so, they will be > fine in denser areas

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-06-07 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
To sum up the contentious issue of suburb, postcode, state tags, - Phil, Daniel and Seb would prefer the suburb and postcode on each address object. - Andrew Davidson and cleary would prefer we not include suburb and postcode on each address object and instead require data consumers to derive

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-27 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Thu, 27 May 2021, at 8:39 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 25/5/21 4:41 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > I'd make a polite argument there is still value in at least the suburb, > > possibly postcode being still provided.  When exporting data via > > overpass as CSV; it's not currently easy or

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-27 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Tue, 25 May 2021, at 4:41 PM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > I'd make a polite argument there is still value in at least the suburb, > possibly postcode being still provided. When exporting data via overpass as > CSV; it's not currently easy or obvious to appropriately bring in the parent >

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-24 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
21, at 2:05 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On this, I'm not sure if this may be an OSMAND problem, or an issue with the > way the info has been loaded in OSM, but here's something that I noticed a > few weeks ago, that may apply here? > > Had to go visit a bloke for the first time, & his

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-21 Thread Andrew Harvey via Talk-au
On Fri, 21 May 2021, at 4:48 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > With regard to postcodes how does it work when there are 2 postcodes out of > the same mail centre? > > EG Gold Coast Mail Centre at Bundall is postcode 4217, but the GC City > Council, which is in that area, has its own postcode